访谈实录：英国驻美大使克里斯蒂安·特纳爵士做客《与玛格丽特·布伦南直面国家》节目 2026年4月26日
2026-04-26T12:12:00-0400 / 哥伦比亚广播公司新闻
以下是英国驻美大使克里斯蒂安·特纳爵士的访谈实录，节目于2026年4月26日在《与玛格丽特·布伦南直面国家》栏目播出。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 我们接下来邀请英国驻美大使，尊敬的克里斯蒂安·特纳爵士。很高兴您能来到节目。
大使克里斯蒂安·特纳： 很高兴能来，玛格丽特，谢谢。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 您昨晚也在那个宴会厅里。作为一名职业外交官，您在职业生涯中曾在多个局势不稳定的国家任职，接受过大量安全培训。您有没有想过，在华盛顿戒备最森严的房间之一里，您会派上这些培训的用场？
特纳大使： 嗯，我在那些地方接受的培训确实在昨晚发挥了作用，你基本上只需听从指令，让专业安保人员各司其职。我认为这是昨晚我最大的收获之一。我和很多人一样，认为昨晚的情况处理得很成功。特勤局圆满完成了任务，不仅如此，看到宴会厅里所有记者以及他们在这个关乎新闻自由的周末展现出的应变能力，也让我印象深刻。我对昨晚所有人的应对表现充满敬意。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 没错，我也是。不过接下来一周还有重头戏，查尔斯国王和卡米拉王后预计明天抵达。不管昨晚发生了什么，这都将是一场重大活动。但我想明确一点：你们没有更改安全评估，仍然认为他们前来国会演讲、到访白宫是安全的，对吗？
特纳大使： 我们会根据专业安保建议行动。我目前仍计划明天迎接国王和王后陛下。当然，我们的团队整晚都在保持沟通，今天也会持续跟进，评估昨晚的事件是否会对我们的行动预案产生影响。我非常有信心，两位陛下在访问期间将获得最完善的安保保障。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 好的，国王还计划举办另一场大型宴会厅聚会，对吧？
特纳大使： 玛格丽特，对我们来说，接下来的三四天将非同寻常。这场访问我们筹备了多年，实际上是为了纪念英美两国建交250周年。昨晚的事件给所有人都蒙上了一层阴霾。但我仍然希望我们能够办好这次活动，让它成为名副其实的庆祝时刻。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 诚然是庆祝，但坦率地说，这也是修复英美特殊关系的一次契机。总统此前对英国首相基尔·斯塔默颇为不满，后者最初并未支持美以对伊朗的军事行动，总统明确表示对此感到不悦，还嘲讽他，说他不是温斯顿·丘吉尔，甚至说英国即便想提供帮助也为时已晚。此外，作为北约盟友，英国还存在其他方面的紧张关系。那么这次访问到底需要修复多少关系呢？
特纳大使： 嗯，英国宪法中有个特别之处，国王凌驾于政治之上。我必须提醒大家，他从未接受过——
玛格丽特·布伦南： 但不得不说，他绝对是一笔政治财富。
特纳大使： 但他从未接受过采访，这点我必须说明。当然，他是国家元首，而非政府首脑。所以实际上，我们可以将这次访问定位为一个彰显情谊、搁置分歧的时刻。我认为，回到昨晚的话题，大家刚才和上一位嘉宾讨论的那种强烈情绪——总统呼吁我们和平解决分歧，任何民主国家都不应存在政治暴力——这些都是经久不衰的理念。这些理念深深植根于我们两国的政治架构中。要知道，我们曾在1776年有过分歧，我们挺过来了，一路走来取得了长足进步。在某种程度上，这正是两国关系如此持久的原因所在：我们曾有过分歧，从撒切尔到里根，从罗斯福到丘吉尔，在如何应对斯大林的问题上都有过分歧。这些都是两国关系中的插曲，但实际上，这份关系之所以能持久，是因为我们在安全领域的合作如此深厚，比如北约框架下的协作，以及我们之间的投资往来。英国是21个国家的最大投资来源国，双边贸易额达4300亿美元。相关统计数据时有更新，但更重要的是，我们希望这次访问聚焦于人文层面。因此，我非常有信心，本周我们将把重点放在这方面。我还要补充一点，事件发生后，首相今早与总统通了电话，国王也向总统和第一夫人发送了私人信函。所以在外交领域，人情往来和政治层面同样重要。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 说到外交层面，英国一直在召集欧洲国家，探讨战后霍尔木兹海峡的应对方案。您非常了解伊朗问题，此前也曾以谈判代表身份在这里工作过。您如何评价目前掌控伊朗的势力，以及这场冲突能否在近期结束？
特纳大使： 这很难说，德黑兰方面显然存在一些分歧。您提到了战争爆发前的最初分歧，但自那以后，玛格丽特，英国其实做了很多工作。我们利用基地开展防御性打击，每晚出动约2000架次战机在中东地区击落无人机和导弹，保护我们的盟友，行动与美国保持高度协调。当然，还有我们的情报基地，我们很少提及，但它是当前诸多行动的绝对基础。我们和美国有着相同的目标和政策，我们希望约束这个政权及其威胁，希望霍尔木兹海峡重新恢复通航。所以你提到的、由马克龙总统与我的首相基尔·斯塔默共同推动的联盟，我们希望能有大约50个国家共同参与，来规划——
玛格丽特·布伦南： 赫格塞特部长称此举很愚蠢，说不过是一堆空谈。
特纳大使： 嗯，这确实是——
玛格丽特·布伦南： 你们打算如何落实——
特纳大使： 没错，这是规划工作，一旦海峡恢复通航，我们要确保航运所需的安全保障，包括一整套的舰艇、无人机和情报支持，确保船舶能够顺利通行。因为这是美国公民、英国公民以及亚洲各国人民的需求。全球经济正遭受冲击，我们希望看到问题得到解决。
玛格丽特·布伦南： 确实如此。谢谢大使，预祝本周一切顺利。我们稍后回来。
Transcript: Sir Christian Turner, U.K. ambassador to the U.S., on “Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan,” April 26, 2026
2026-04-26T12:12:00-0400 / CBS News
The following is the transcript of the interview with Sir Christian Turner, U.K. ambassador to the U.S., that aired on “Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan” on April 26, 2026.
MARGARET BRENNAN: We turn now to the British Ambassador to the United States. His Excellency, Sir Christian Turner. Good to have you here.
AMB. CHRISTIAN TURNER: Good to be here. Margaret, thank you.
MARGARET BRENNAN: You too, were in that ballroom last night. You got a lot of security training for unstable countries where you have been posted as a professional diplomat over the course of your career. Did you ever imagine in one of the most heavily guarded rooms in DC, you’d have to put that to use?
AMB. TURNER: Well the training I’ve had in some of those places I’ve been actually kicks in last night, you basically do what you’re told and let the professional security folk do what they do. And I think it was one of my big takeaways last night. I think it was a- I’m with the people who say it was a success story. The Secret Service absolutely did what they needed to, not only that, but seeing actually all the journalists in the room and their training kicking in in a weekend that is all about the freedom of the press. I’m full of admiration for the way people responded last night.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Well you- me too, but you have a week ahead of you, because King Charles and Queen Camilla are expected to arrive tomorrow. This is a going to be a big event regardless of what happened last night. But just to be clear, you haven’t changed your security assessment. You believe it is still safe for them to come and speak to Congress and be at the White House?
AMB. TURNER: So we respond to that professional advice. I’m currently planning to be welcoming their Majesties tomorrow. But of course, our team has been in touch way through the night, and we’ll be through the day to see whether the events of last night have any change in our operational planning. And I’m very confident that their Majesties will have the very best security throughout the visit.
MARGARET BRENNAN: All right, there is another big ballroom gathering planned, right? For the King.
AMB. TURNER: it’s going to be an extraordinary three or four days for us. Margaret. We’ve been planning this visit for years. Really, it’s the 250th between our two countries. I mean a somber background after last night for all of us. But I still hope we’ll be able to showcase this moment to make it the celebration that it deserves to be.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Well, a celebration, but to be clear, it’s also a bit of repair work right to the special relationship. The president had been quite upset with your Prime Minister Keir Starmer, who didn’t initially support the offensive operations by the U.S. and Israel against Iran, and the president was very clear he was not happy with him. He mocked him. He said he’s no Winston Churchill. He said it was too late for the UK to even offer help. And then there was other tension about the UK. As a NATO ally, how much repair work is this visit actually about?
AMB. TURNER: Well, the extraordinary thing in the British Constitution, of course, is the king is above politics. I have to remind people, he’s never given–
MARGARET BRENNAN: He’s a definite political asset, let’s be clear.
AMB. TURNER: But he’s never given an interview, which I have to remind people because, of course, he’s the head of state, but he’s not the head of government. So actually, that’s why we can make this a moment to step up and step back. And I think, I mean, just to take it back to last night. I mean, the other takeaway is that strong sentiment you were just discussing with your last guest, the president, calling for us to resolve our differences peacefully, that there is, there is no place for political violence in any of our democracies. You know, these are, these are enduring messages. They’re baked into our political makeup, into your political makeup, that ability for us to look back we had a small difference of opinion in 1776. 1776 we’ve been through that. We’ve- we’ve come a very long way, and that, in a way, for me, is what is so enduring about this relationship. It’s that we’ve had differences. Thatcher to Reagan. Roosevelt with Churchill actually over how to handle Stalin. These are moments in the relationship but actually it endures because it is so deep on security, yes, NATO on our investment. We are the largest investor in 21 states, $430 billion of trade. I mean, the statistics come out, but it’s actually about the people that we want this to focus. So I am, I’m very confident that’s where we will want to focus our time this week. And I should add, the prime minister spoke to the president this morning after the incident, the king sent a personal message to the president and first lady. So actually, in diplomacy, it’s as much personal as it is political.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Well, on the diplomatic front, the UK has been convening European countries to try to figure out what to do with the Strait of Hormuz after combat ends. You know the Iran file quite well. You were previously a negotiator here. What’s your assessment on who is running Iran right now and whether we see an end to this conflict anytime soon?
AMB. TURNER: So, it’s difficult in in Tehran, there are clearly some divisions. You pointed to that initial disagreement before the war, but since then, Margaret, actually, the UK, has been doing a lot. We were using our bases for defensive strikes. We’ve flown something like 2000 sorties with aircraft in the Middle East shooting down drones and missiles to protect our allies every night, in very close coordination with the US. And, of course, our intelligence base, we don’t talk about it much, but it’s the absolute foundation of of so much that is that is going on. We share the same intent, the same policy as the US. We want to constrain this regime and its threat. We want the straits open again. So this coalition you refer to that President Macron has worked with, with my Prime Minister, Keir Starmer on, what we want, that to do something like 50 countries coming together to work out —
MARGARET BRENNAN: Secretary Hegseth called it silly. He said it was just a bunch of meetings.
AMB. TURNER: Well, it is —
MARGARET BRENNAN: What are you going to plan to do–
AMB. TURNER: Yeah, it is planning, once the straits are open, to ensure that the navigation we need has got the assurance of a whole package of boats, of drones, of intelligence to be able to make sure that shipping goes through. Because that’s what American citizens need. That’s what British citizens need. The people of Asia need. The global economy is suffering, and we want to see that resolved.
MARGARET BRENNAN: It is indeed. Thank you, ambassador, good luck this week. We’ll be right back.
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