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  • 五角大楼:第七名美军士兵在沙特遇袭伤重不治


    发布/2026年3月9日 07:44

    美国中央司令部说,3月1日伊朗在沙特军事基地身负重伤的一名美军,7日晚因伤势过重去世。 (路透社)

    又有一名美军士兵在对伊朗的军事行动中阵亡。

    美国中央司令部星期天(3月8日)宣布,第七名美军士兵在美国和以色列空袭伊朗的行动中阵亡。阵亡军人的身份尚未公开,但美国中央司令部说,他是在沙特阿拉伯军事基地遭伊朗袭击时受伤。

    美国中央司令部在一份声明中表示,这名军人于3月1日伊朗袭击一座驻有美军的沙特军事基地时身负重伤。军方在通知他的家属之前,不会公布他的身份。官员称,这名军人7日晚因伤势过重去世。当时,军方医疗人员正准备将他转送至德国一家美军医院接受治疗。

    美国总统特朗普前一天刚到特拉华州多佛空军基地,出席在美伊冲突中阵亡的六名美国士兵的遗体交接仪式。

    五角大楼:第七名美军士兵在沙特遇袭伤重不治

    发布/2026年3月9日 07:44

    美国中央司令部说,3月1日伊朗在沙特军事基地身负重伤的一名美军,7日晚因伤势过重去世。 (路透社)

    又有一名美军士兵在对伊朗的军事行动中阵亡。

    美国中央司令部星期天(3月8日)宣布,第七名美军士兵在美国和以色列空袭伊朗的行动中阵亡。阵亡军人的身份尚未公开,但美国中央司令部说,他是在沙特阿拉伯军事基地遭伊朗袭击时受伤。

    美国中央司令部在一份声明中表示,这名军人于3月1日伊朗袭击一座驻有美军的沙特军事基地时身负重伤。军方在通知他的家属之前,不会公布他的身份。官员称,这名军人7日晚因伤势过重去世。当时,军方医疗人员正准备将他转送至德国一家美军医院接受治疗。

    美国总统特朗普前一天刚到特拉华州多佛空军基地,出席在美伊冲突中阵亡的六名美国士兵的遗体交接仪式。

  • 以军称打击伊朗伊斯兰革命卫队空军总部


    2026年3月9日 07:56 / 联合早报

    3月3日发布的Vantor卫星图像显示,位于伊朗首都德黑兰的伊朗伊斯兰革命卫队总部。这张图像摄于2月27日。 (法新社)

    以色列国防军星期天(3月8日)晚间说,以空军对数十个伊朗目标发动空袭,伊朗伊斯兰革命卫队空军总部是袭击目标之一。

    新华社报道,以军称,此次打击旨在瓦解伊朗弹道导弹系统,并削弱伊朗协调对以色列发动袭击的能力。

    伊朗方面尚未证实上述以军实施打击的消息。

    以军称打击伊朗伊斯兰革命卫队空军总部

    2026年3月9日 07:56 / 联合早报

    3月3日发布的Vantor卫星图像显示,位于伊朗首都德黑兰的伊朗伊斯兰革命卫队总部。这张图像摄于2月27日。 (法新社)

    以色列国防军星期天(3月8日)晚间说,以空军对数十个伊朗目标发动空袭,伊朗伊斯兰革命卫队空军总部是袭击目标之一。

    新华社报道,以军称,此次打击旨在瓦解伊朗弹道导弹系统,并削弱伊朗协调对以色列发动袭击的能力。

    伊朗方面尚未证实上述以军实施打击的消息。

  • 美国部分机场安检队伍等待时长达三小时,TSA人员缺勤率上升


    2026年3月8日 20:53 UTC(格林尼治标准时间)/路透社

    华盛顿/新奥尔良,3月8日(路透社) – 周日,由于美国运输安全管理局(TSA)工作人员缺勤增加,加之春假旅行潮来袭,部分美国机场的安检队伍等待时间延长至三小时。

    休斯顿霍比机场周日某时段平均等待时间达3个半小时,下午6点(格林尼治标准时间2300点)时平均等待时间为三小时。

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    路易斯阿姆斯特朗新奥尔良国际机场周日建议乘客至少在计划起飞前三小时到达机场,并警告称本周剩余时间内延误可能持续。

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    机场在社交媒体帖子中表示:”TSA在安检口面临人员短缺,导致队伍等待时间远超平均水平。”

    即将返回波士顿的伊利亚娜·帕特森(Eliana Patterson)称,新奥尔良机场的安检队伍蜿蜒穿过航站楼,甚至延伸至出口外的附近停车场。”我的航班已经延误了,但如果没有延误的话,我可能会有点担心。”

    TSA表示,休斯顿乔治·布什洲际机场、北卡罗来纳州夏洛特道格拉斯国际机场以及亚特兰大哈茨菲尔德-杰克逊国际机场也报告了超出平均水平的等待时间。

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    周日,多个机场报告TSA工作人员缺勤率高于正常水平。

    2月13日,由于国会未能就民主党要求的移民执法改革达成协议,美国国土安全部(DHS)资金中断。这导致包括TSA在内的多个政府机构运营资金停发,约5万名TSA机场安检人员无薪工作。

    国土安全部在一份声明中表示:”部分主要机场的旅客面临TSA安检队伍长达近三小时的情况,导致航班误机和高峰期大规模延误。”

    周日,代表美国主要航空公司的一个团体表示,过长的安检队伍导致航班延误,乘客误机。

    美国航空运输协会(Airlines for America)首席执行官克里斯·苏努努(Chris Sununu)称:”国会和政府必须紧急采取行动,达成协议重新开放国土安全部并结束此次停摆。美国的运输安全人员队伍对国家至关重要,不应被用作政治筹码。”

    航空公司预计本春假旅行季将创纪录,预计将有1.71亿乘客出行,同比去年同期增长4%。

    苏努努表示,春假旅行潮即将来临,而TSA工作人员将在3月13日迎来首次零薪水发放。

    TSA最高官员哈·阮·麦克尼尔(Ha Nguyen McNeill)上月告诉国会,2025年10月和11月,约有1110名运输安全官员因43天政府停摆离职,离职人数较2024年同期增长超过25%。

    华盛顿报道:David Shepardson,新奥尔良报道:David Geffen;编辑:Matthew Lewis和Edmund Klamann

    Security lines hit three hours at some US airports as TSA absences rise

    March 8, 2026 8:53 PM UTC / Reuters

    WASHINGTON/NEW ORLEANS, March 8 (Reuters) – Waiting times in security lines at some U.S. airports extended to three hours on Sunday, as absences by Transportation Security Administration workers rose during a partial government shutdown and as spring-break travel increased.

    Houston Hobby Airport at one point on Sunday reported lines averaging 3-1/2 hours, and at 6 p.m. (2300 GMT) the wait times averaged three hours.

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    Louis Armstrong New Orleans International Airport advised passengers on Sunday to arrive at least three hours before their scheduled departure and warned delays could continue the rest of the week.

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    “TSA is experiencing a shortage of workers at the security checkpoint, which is causing longer-than-average lines,” the airport said in a social media post.

    Eliana Patterson, who was returning home to Boston, said security lines at the New Orleans airport snaked around the terminal and out an exit into a nearby parking lot. “My flight’s been delayed but if it hadn’t been I’d be a little worried.”

    TSA said longer-than-average lines were also reported at George Bush Intercontinental Airport in Houston, Charlotte Douglas International Airport in North Carolina and Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport.

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    Several airports reported higher-than-normal absences among TSA officials on Sunday.

    Funding for the Department of Homeland Security lapsed on February 13 after Congress failed to reach a deal on immigration enforcement reforms demanded by Democrats. That halted operational funding for several government agencies, including the TSA, resulting in about 50,000 TSA airport security screeners working without pay.

    “Travelers are facing TSA lines of up to nearly three hours long at some major airports, causing missed flights and massive delays during peak travel,” the DHS said in a statement.

    On Sunday, a group representing major U.S. airlines said the long security lines were causing flights to be delayed and passengers to miss flights.

    “Congress and the administration must act with urgency to reach a deal that reopens DHS and ends this shutdown. America’s transportation security workforce is too important to be used as political leverage,” said Chris Sununu, CEO of trade association Airlines for America.

    Carriers are expecting a record-breaking spring travel period, with 171 million passengers expected to fly, up 4% over the same two-month period last year.

    Spring-break travel will heat up just as TSA workers receive their first zero paycheck on March 13, Sununu said.

    Ha Nguyen McNeill, the top official at the TSA, told Congress last month that around 1,110 transportation security officers left the TSA in October and November 2025 following a 43-day government shutdown, a more than 25% increase in departures compared with the same period in 2024.

    Reporting by David Shepardson in Washington and David Geffen in New Orleans; Editing by Matthew Lewis and Edmund Klamann

  • 英国格拉斯哥中央车站大楼在大火中坍塌 | 联合早报


    发布时间: 2026-03-08T23:58:29.000Z 来源: 联合早报

    英国格拉斯哥中央车站大楼在大火中坍塌

    位于英国格拉斯哥郡的中央车站大楼在大火中坍塌。

    英国广播公司(BBC)报道,数十趟列车服务已被取消。英国国家铁路公司发表声明说,格拉斯哥中央车站(Glasgow Central Station)已关闭,直至另行通知。

    格拉斯哥中央车站是英国的一座干线铁路终点站,位于苏格兰最大都市格拉斯哥。

    立即订阅《联合早报》,洞察全球局势异动,把握世界经济发展脉搏,解锁国际热点评析。

    英国格拉斯哥中央车站大楼在大火中坍塌 | 联合早报

    发布时间: 2026-03-08T23:58:29.000Z 来源: 联合早报

    英国格拉斯哥中央车站大楼在大火中坍塌

    位于英国格拉斯哥郡的中央车站大楼在大火中坍塌。

    英国广播公司(BBC)报道,数十趟列车服务已被取消。英国国家铁路公司发表声明说,格拉斯哥中央车站(Glasgow Central Station)已关闭,直至另行通知。

    格拉斯哥中央车站是英国的一座干线铁路终点站,位于苏格兰最大都市格拉斯哥。

    立即订阅《联合早报》,洞察全球局势异动,把握世界经济发展脉搏,解锁国际热点评析。

  • 美国第七名军人在伊朗战争中丧生,此前在沙特阿拉伯袭击中受伤


    2026-03-08T20:17:09.714Z / CNN

    作者:派珀·赫德思佩斯·布莱克本(Piper Hudspeth Blackburn)、伊莎贝尔·达安东尼奥(Isabelle D’Antonio)

    更新于25分钟前
    更新时间:2026年3月8日,美国东部时间晚上7:35
    发布时间:2026年3月8日,美国东部时间下午4:17

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    沙特阿拉伯利雅得,在美以与伊朗冲突期间,3月5日城市上空升起烟雾。 路透社/特约记者

    军方周日表示,一名美国军人在上周沙特阿拉伯的一次袭击中受伤后死亡,这使得在伊朗战争中丧生的美军人数达到7人。

    美国中央司令部在X平台上表示:“昨晚,一名美国军人因伊朗政权在中东发动的初步袭击中受伤而死亡。该军人于3月1日在沙特阿拉伯王国对美军的袭击现场受重伤。”

    根据惯例,该军人的姓名将在通知其家属24小时后公布。

    在为上周在科威特丧生的6名士兵举行庄重交接仪式的第二天,又传来了一名阵亡士兵的消息。总统唐纳德·特朗普和其他高级官员与这些士兵的家属一同前往特拉华州多佛空军基地,迎接这些士兵的遗体回国。

    3月1日,一场毫无预警的袭击发生在科威特民用港口舒艾巴的一个临时作战中心。所有6名士兵均隶属于爱荷华州陆军预备役第103后勤司令部。

    总统周日告诉美国广播公司(ABC),会见这6名士兵的家属并没有让他对这场战争产生犹豫。

    “如果我这样做,父母们会不高兴的,”他说,“他们每个人都对我说,‘先生,请为我的孩子赢得这场胜利’,有一位年轻女士,正如你所知,‘请为我的孩子赢得这场胜利’。”

    总统此前曾表示,伊朗战争中可能会有更多美军伤亡。周六被问及是否认为自己需要参加更多庄重的交接仪式时,特朗普表示:“我肯定会。我很不愿意……但这是战争的一部分。”

    中央司令部周日在另一条社交媒体帖子中宣布,一名美国国民警卫队士兵于3月6日在科威特的一次医疗紧急情况中因“健康相关事件”死亡。

    五角大楼表示,46岁的纽约州皇后区的索夫利·达维乌斯少校(Maj. Sorffly Davius)在布赫尔林营地去世。目前正在调查该事件。该部门称,达维乌斯自2014年起担任纽约市警察。

    本报道已更新补充信息。

    Seventh US service member killed in Iran war after being wounded in attack in Saudi Arabia

    2026-03-08T20:17:09.714Z / CNN

    By Piper Hudspeth Blackburn, Isabelle D’Antonio

    Updated 25 min ago
    Updated Mar 8, 2026, 7:35 PM ET
    PUBLISHED Mar 8, 2026, 4:17 PM ET

    Smoke rises above the city, amid the U.S.-Israeli conflict with Iran, in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, on March 5, 2026.

    Stringer/Reuters

    A US service member died after sustaining injuries during an attack last week in Saudi Arabia, the military said Sunday, bringing the number of American troops killed in the Iran war to seven.

    “Last night, a U.S. service member passed away from injuries received during the Iranian regime’s initial attacks across the Middle East,” US Central Command said on X. “The service member was seriously wounded at the scene of an attack on U.S. troops in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia on March 1.”

    The name of the service member is being withheld until 24 hours after their family is notified, as is custom.

    The news of the fallen service member comes a day after the dignified transfer for the six soldiers who were killed last week in Kuwait. President Donald Trump and other top officials joined the families of those troops at Dover Air Force Base in Delaware as the soldiers were brought home.

    That strike, which came without warning, occurred on a makeshift operations center at the civilian port of Shuaiba in Kuwait on March 1. All six soldiers were assigned with the 103rd Sustainment Command, an Army Reserve unit out of Iowa.

    The president told ABC on Sunday that meeting with the families of the six troops did not give him pause about the war.

    “The parents would be upset if I did that,” he said. “The parents said to me, every one of them, ‘Please sir, win this for my boy,’ and in one case a young woman, as you know. ‘Please, win this for my child.’”

    The president has previously said there will likely be more US casualties in the Iran war. Asked Saturday whether he thought he would have to attend more dignified transfers, Trump said, “I’m sure. I hate to … but it’s a part of war.”

    CENTCOM also announced Sunday in a separate social media post that a US National Guard soldier died in a “health-related incident in Kuwait on March 6 during a medical emergency.”

    Maj. Sorffly Davius, 46, of Queens, New York, died at Camp Buehring, the Pentagon said. The incident is under investigation. Davius was a New York City police officer since 2014, the department said.

    This story has been updated with additional information.

  • 人工智能提高生产力是否导致职业倦怠?研究发现”人工智能脑疲劳”新现象


    2026年3月8日 / 美国东部时间下午1:57 / CBS新闻

    人工智能的承诺很简单:让机器完成工作。然而,它可能正在制造一种新的麻烦——看管这些机器。《哈佛商业评论》发表的一项新研究表明,人工智能非但没有让工作更轻松,反而可能给一些员工带来研究人员所谓的”脑疲劳”。

    研究人员调查了约1500名员工,发现那些在多个人工智能工具间频繁切换的人报告了更多的决策疲劳和更多的错误。约七分之一的员工表示,他们在工作中因处理人工智能工具而经历了精神疲劳。

    “人工智能可以远远领先于我们,但我们的大脑还是昨天的大脑,”波士顿咨询集团董事总经理兼合伙人、该研究的作者朱莉·贝达德(Julie Bedard)表示。她告诉CBS新闻,这些发现是一个”早期预警信号”,表明围绕人工智能生产力的期望可能需要重新调整。

    “人工智能在某些方面确实对工作很有帮助。但在其他方面,它让我们在工作方式上不得不暂停思考,”贝达德说。”具体来说,对人工智能的密集监督会导致大量的认知疲劳。”

    生产力悖论

    研究发现了一个惊人的悖论:人工智能既能减少职业倦怠,又能引发职业倦怠。

    当员工必须不断监督多个人工智能系统或同时处理多个工具时,精神压力急剧增加。相比之下,当员工使用人工智能实际卸下重复性任务时,他们的压力水平会下降。

    贝达德解释说,人工智能”确实让我们能够扩展我们的能力,基本上是扩展我们的工作量和工作中的责任范围”,而这种能力的扩展可能很快就会让人不堪重负。

    “人工智能脑疲劳会导致大量的精神疲劳,所以我们觉得这些任务超出了我们大脑的处理能力,”她说。

    脑疲劳的感受

    对于那些深度使用人工智能工具的人来说,”脑疲劳”的概念引起了共鸣。

    “通常在忙碌一天后,我会感到一种以前在没有人工智能的正常工作日不会有的疲惫,”韦伯斯特·帕斯咨询公司战略、运营和产品主管杰克·唐尼(Jack Downey)表示。他每天使用人工智能来构建自动化系统,发现人工智能工作流程带来了额外的精神压力。

    “你会一直等待……并且不断切换工作模式,”他说。”它工作得很快,但还不够快到能瞬间完成。所以一个任务可能需要5秒,另一个需要50秒,还有一个需要5分钟。”唐尼说,他通常会同时打开多个窗口来处理项目的不同部分。

    虽然这项技术扩展了员工的工作能力,但也扩大了对他们的期望,即使这种期望是内部驱动的。

    “人工智能的能力是无限的,很难说’不’并停止追求下一个你想要的改进,”唐尼说。”作为一个完美主义者,这往往会导致不知道何时停止。因为下一个更好的选择是可能的,所以你最终往往会花更多时间编写完美的工作流程并告诉人工智能该怎么做。”

    唐尼表示,为自己和人工智能设定截止日期有助于限制脑疲劳并产出更好的产品。

    企业为何应关注这一现象

    多年来,许多关于人工智能的预测表明,这项技术将允许更少的员工更快地完成更多工作。但贝达德表示,如果人工智能已经让员工面临认知过载,企业可能需要重新思考这些假设。

    “我们需要重新设计我们的工作方式……而不是仅仅在昨天的工作基础上叠加人工智能,”她说。

    研究发现,领导力和培训可能发挥关键作用。那些管理者有意使用人工智能的员工,脑疲劳更少。

    如果企业不解决这个问题,他们的利润底线可能会受到影响。经历人工智能脑疲劳的员工报告了更多的错误、决策速度变慢和更高的疲劳感。贝达德明确表示,解决方案不是放弃人工智能,而是在人工智能革命加速的情况下重新思考人类员工如何最好地与这些工具互动。

    人工智能的潜力是无限的。问题在于人类的大脑能在多大程度上跟上它的步伐。

    Is AI productivity prompting burnout? Study finds new pattern of “AI brain fry”

    March 8, 2026 / 1:57 PM EDT / CBS News

    The promise of artificial intelligence has been simple: let the machines do the work. Instead, it may be creating a new headache from babysitting the machines. A new study published in Harvard Business Review suggests that instead of making work easier, AI may be giving some workers what researchers are calling “brain fry.”

    Researchers surveyed about 1,500 workers and found that people constantly bouncing between multiple AI tools reported more decision fatigue and more errors. About one in seven workers said they had experienced mental fatigue from juggling AI tools at work.

    “The AI can run out far ahead of us, but we’re still here with the same brain we had yesterday,” said Julie Bedard, managing director and partner at Boston Consulting Group and an author of the study. She told CBS News the findings are an “early warning sign” that expectations around AI productivity may need recalibrating.

    “AI is really good in some ways for work. And in other ways, it gives us pause in how we do our work,” Bedard said. “Specifically, there are ways in which intensive oversight of AI causes a lot of sort of cognitive, just exhaustion.”

    The productivity paradox

    The study found a striking paradox: AI can both reduce burnout and create it.

    When workers had to constantly supervise multiple AI systems or juggle several tools at once, mental strain increased sharply. By contrast, when workers used AI to actually offload repetitive tasks, their stress levels dropped.

    Bedard explained that AI “allows us to really extend our capabilities, basically extending our workload and our sphere of accountability at work,” and that expansion of capability can quickly become overwhelming.

    “AI brain fry causes a lot of mental fatigue so we feel like it’s beyond our brain’s capability to handle those tasks,” she said.

    What it feels like

    For people working deeply with AI tools, the concept of “brain fry” resonates.

    “There’s a point that usually happens after a full day where I just kind of feel exhausted in a way that I didn’t feel in a normal work day before AI,” said Jack Downey, Head of Strategy, Operations and Product at Webster Pass Consulting. He uses AI daily to build automation systems and finds there is an additional mental strain that comes from AI workflows.

    “You’re constantly waiting… and you’re changing gears,” he said. “It works so quickly, but not quite quickly enough that it happens instantaneously. And so it might take five seconds to do one task, 50 seconds to do another task, and five minutes to do another task.” Downey said he usually has several different windows open to work on multiple parts of a project at the same time.

    While the technology expands what workers can do, it also expands what they’re expected to do, even if that expectation is internally driven.

    “The capacity of AI is so endless that it can be really hard to just say no and stop whatever the next improvement is that you want,” Downey said. “As a perfectionist, that often can result in not knowing when to stop. The next best thing is possible, so, often, you end up spending more time writing the perfect workflow and telling AI what to do.”

    Downey said he finds that setting deadlines for himself and his AI helps to limit the fry and produce a better product.

    Why businesses should pay attention

    For years, many predictions about artificial intelligence suggested the technology would allow fewer workers to do more work faster. But if AI is already pushing workers toward cognitive overload, organizations may need to rethink those assumptions, Bedard said.

    “We need to redesign how we do our work… where we don’t just keep exactly what we did yesterday and put AI on the top of it,” she said.

    The study found that leadership and training could play a critical role. Less brain fry was seen among employees whose managers were intentional with their AI use.

    If businesses don’t figure that out, their bottom lines may suffer. Workers experiencing AI brain fry reported more mistakes, slower decision-making, and higher fatigue. Bedard is clear that the solution is not abandoning AI, but rethinking how human workers best interact with these tools as the AI revolution accelerates.

    The promise of AI may be limitless. The question is how far the human brain can stretch to keep up.

  • 能源部长克里斯·赖特在2026年3月8日《面对国家》节目中的访谈实录


    2026-03-08T12:01:00-0400 / CBS新闻

    更新时间:2026年3月8日 / 美国东部时间下午2:04 / CBS新闻

    以下是2026年3月8日《面对国家》节目中对能源部长克里斯·赖特的访谈实录。


    玛格丽特·布伦南:我们现在转向能源部长克里斯·赖特,他从丹佛加入我们的晨间节目。早上好。

    能源部长克里斯·赖特:谢谢你邀请我,玛格丽特。

    玛格丽特·布伦南:目前有5万名美军部署,已知已有6名美国人阵亡,平民被困。部长先生,根据我们的民调显示,这场战争在多数美国人中不受欢迎,超过半数(56%)的人表示反对。当你与能源企业高管讨论美国参与的规模和持续时间时,你会告诉他们什么?这种情况会持续多久?

    赖特部长:我会告诉他们,伊朗已经对美国发动了47年的战争。在这47年中,他们一直试图破坏邻国的能源开发和能源基础设施,现在也在这么做。是时候结束这一切了。是的,我们会经历一段能源价格暂时高企的时期,但不会太久。最坏情况下,这也只是几周的事,而非数月。最终结果会更好:伊朗将被解除武装,无法威胁邻国,无法威胁美国士兵,也无法继续通过扰乱中东局势来推高能源价格。他们将转向商业而非冲突。

    玛格丽特·布伦南:但就目前的局势而言,你知道过去一周汽油价格上涨了14%。美国汽车协会(AAA)报告称全国平均油价为每加仑3.45美元。我们看到油价飙升。你认为石油和天然气价格会涨到多高?

    赖特部长:它们不应该涨得比现在高太多,因为全球石油供应充足。西半球根本不存在能源短缺。

    玛格丽特·布伦南:是的。

    赖特部长:美国是石油净出口国,也是天然气的大型净出口国。但亚洲和欧洲的炼油厂正面临正常原油供应中断的问题。不过全球有大量能源储备。你们看到的是对这场战争是否会长期化的情绪化反应和恐惧。这不是一场长期战争——

    玛格丽特·布伦南:——但是——

    赖特部长:——这只是暂时的动荡。

    玛格丽特·布伦南:抱歉,你继续说,暂时动荡。

    赖特部长:不,我的意思是,我们看到前几届政府已经尽力了:他们恳求、交易、贿赂伊朗政府,让其停止邪恶活动和屠杀行为,但根本没用。现在,伊朗正在扩大导弹和无人机项目,这些项目正迅速发展以实现其制造核武器的野心。我们即将越过无法再遏制其核野心的临界点。现在是结束其对美国和世界威胁的时候了。

    玛格丽特·布伦南:但你知道,当我询问能源价格时,问题不在于供应。你说供应充足。国际能源署(IEA)负责人表示,石油供应充足,问题在于物流——是运输中断,这是个严重问题。他指的是实际运输能力。我知道你提到有一艘油轮通过了霍尔木兹海峡。通常每天有2000万桶原油通过这里。何时能恢复到正常水平?

    赖特部长:哦,我认为很快。当然,我不确定具体时间。我们所有军事资产目前都集中在阻止伊朗杀害其邻国、威胁美国士兵以及霍尔木兹海峡的航运。但情况进展顺利。在相对短期内,导弹发射量下降了90%,无人机发射量下降了80%以上。我认为,你会看到伊朗的能力大幅下降,霍尔木兹海峡的航运将恢复正常。

    玛格丽特·布伦南:所以你认为不需要海军护航油轮?

    赖特部长:可能需要,可能需要。美国的职责是尽一切可能确保全球石油市场供应。是的,如果存在一些残留威胁——

    玛格丽特·布伦南:——你们何时会做出决定?

    赖特部长:我们目前正在与希望将油轮驶离海湾的各方协商。是的,初期的油轮可能需要美国军方的直接保护,但最重要的是解除伊朗威胁这些船只的能力。

    玛格丽特·布伦南:总统曾表示他愿意动用美国战略石油储备(SPR),但我看到你今天早上在其他媒体上似乎对此泼冷水,称储备已“耗尽”。你的意思是美国没有足够的储备吗?

    赖特部长:不。美国战略石油储备仍有超过4亿桶石油,而且产量强劲。如果有必要,我们很乐意动用这些储备。但正如你之前所说,这是物流问题:他们需要石油的地方是欧洲和亚洲的炼油厂。这就是我们采取务实措施的原因。有超过1亿桶俄罗斯浮式原油正排队等待交付给中国。这些原油将被出售、精炼,但可能需要一到两个月。因此,在不改变美国对俄政策的前提下,我们告诉印度人:把这些俄罗斯原油运到你们的炼油厂。如果你感觉原油短缺、价格上涨,就动用那些就在近海的俄罗斯原油储备。

    玛格丽特·布伦南:是的。在这一点上,美国暂时暂停了部分制裁,使那些俄罗斯石油能够流通,你称这本来就会出售。但俄罗斯难道不会从中继续获利吗?如果俄罗斯是我们的对手,为什么不扣押这些俄罗斯油轮?

    赖特部长:因为我们现在更担心伊朗和解决47年的问题,同时也担心美国消费者。我们想阻止——

    玛格丽特·布伦南:——俄罗斯在帮助伊朗——

    赖特部长:——汽油和柴油价格上涨。有谣言称他们在这么做,但我们不确定真假。当然,他们已经收到了我们的强烈警告。但这是海洋上的石油——

    玛格丽特·布伦南:——这些伊朗无人机含有俄罗斯部件,俄罗斯一直在购买伊朗无人机。这一点有充分证据,哥伦比亚广播公司(CBS)已证实并报道过,美俄之间有情报共享。俄罗斯正在向伊朗提供情报以针对美国目标。俄罗斯怎么会与此无关?

    赖特部长:你看,俄罗斯很擅长在全球制造麻烦,我不否认他们可能在帮忙。但我们通过加速出售俄罗斯石油来阻止能源价格上涨、维持欧亚炼油厂供油,这是务实之举,这不会改变美国对俄政策。我们只是在采取必要措施度过这个短期动荡,以便迎来一个能源价格更低的时代——因为世界主要能源生产地区(中东)将不再有强大的伊朗威胁邻国、威胁美国,且不再离核武器一步之遥。这是不可接受的情况——如果我们无所作为,能源价格就会一直高企。

    玛格丽特·布伦南:——油价能涨到多高——

    赖特部长:——这是一个不可接受的场景。这就是不采取行动的能源价格风险。

    玛格丽特·布伦南:当卡塔尔官员称油价可能达到每桶150美元时,美国能承受吗?特朗普总统会因为民众反对战争而结束这场战争吗?因为民众会说“我付不起油价了”?

    赖特部长:不,总统将继续专注于结束47年的冲突,专注于增加全球能源供应。这实际上是这一努力的一部分。确实会有能源生产的暂时中断,但从长远看,将允许更多能源生产,从而降低能源价格。但这不是一场长期冲突。大多数总统都选择“踢皮球”,推迟问题解决。但现在推迟的风险太大,因为这个“球”正变得越来越危险。

    玛格丽特·布伦南:是的。

    赖特部长:特朗普总统的大胆领导告诉我们:够了。我们要结束这一切。

    玛格丽特·布伦南:我想问问委内瑞拉的情况。美国推翻了马杜罗,他现在在监狱里。但就在上周,内政部长访问了委内瑞拉,并与马杜罗的头号打手迪奥斯达多·卡贝洛会面。此人悬赏2500万美元。他掌管监狱和民兵组织,却被当作与美国官员平等的对手。这是否是特朗普政府在伊朗将采用的相同策略?你一直说伊朗政权糟糕透顶,现在却要与这个“糟糕政权”打交道?

    赖特部长:我们不知道冲突结束后会是什么政权,但我们知道新政权不会拥有大规模武器库,不会再对美国、中东和全球石油供应构成巨大威胁。特朗普总统正在采取大胆领导。我们无法瞬间改变世界,但可以将其引向积极方向。委内瑞拉就是很好的例子。由于我们在委内瑞拉的行动,特立尼达和多巴哥附近的犯罪率已经大幅下降,而特朗普总统坚持与西半球邻国合作减少毒品走私。领导力需要冒险,但如果你想推动改善,就必须有信心、正确的议程和勇气,而总统具备这些。

    玛格丽特·布伦南:能源部长赖特,感谢你今天早上的时间。《面对国家》节目稍后继续,我们马上回来。

    Transcript: Energy Secretary Chris Wright on “Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan,” March 8, 2026

    2026-03-08T12:01:00-0400 / CBS News

    Updated on: March 8, 2026 / 2:04 PM EDT / CBS News

    The following is the transcript of the interview with Energy Secretary Chris Wright that aired on “Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan” on March 8, 2026.

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    MARGARET BRENNAN: We turn now to Energy Secretary Chris Wright, who joins us this morning from Denver. Good morning to you.

    SECRETARY OF ENERGY CHRIS WRIGHT: Thanks for having me Margaret.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: So 50,000 U.S. troops deployed, six Americans that we know of so far killed in action, civilians stranded. We look at our polling, Mr. Secretary, and we see that this is an unpopular war among the majority of Americans. More than half of them, 56% disapprove. When you speak to energy executives about the scope and duration of American involvement, what do you tell them? How long?

    SEC. WRIGHT: I tell them that for 47 years, Iran is warg- waged war against the United States, and they’ve- throughout that 47 years, they’ve tried to undermine the energy development and energy infrastructure of all their neighbors, as they’re doing right now, and it’s time to put it to an end. So yes, we have a, we have a temporary period of elevated energy prices, but it will not be long. In the worst case, this is weeks, this is not months, and it leads to a much better place. It leads to an Iran that’s defanged, that can’t threaten its neighbors, can’t threaten American soldiers and can’t continue to drive up energy prices by making a mess of the Middle East. They can move to commerce, not conflict.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: Well, but you have the moment we are in right now, and as you know, gasoline prices up 14% in the past week. According to AAA, reports the national average is $3.45. We’ve seen oil prices spike. How high do you think oil and gas are going to go?

    SEC. WRIGHT: They shouldn’t go much higher than they are here because the world is very well supplied with oil. There’s no energy shortage at all in the Western Hemisphere.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: Right.

    SEC. WRIGHT: The United States is a net exporter of oil, a large net exporter of natural gas. But refineries in Asia and Europe are seeing an interruption from the normal crude flows. But there is massive energy stores around the world. What you’re seeing is emotional reactions and fear that this is a long term war. This is not a long term war–

    MARGARET BRENNAN: –But–

    SEC. WRIGHT: –It’s a temporary movement.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: Sorry, go ahead, temporary movement.

    SEC. WRIGHT: No, I’m saying look, we’ve seen previous administration have done everything they could. They begged, bartered and bribed the Iranian government to stop its nefarious activity, stop its murderous behavior, and it simply hasn’t worked, and now, they’re, they’re expanding missile and drone program that are rapidly growing to protect their desire to build a nuclear weapon. We’re going to cross the threshold where we can’t put them back in the box. Now is the time to end their risk to America and the world.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: But as you know, when I ask you about energy prices, this is not a supply problem. You said there’s plenty of supply. The head of the International Energy Agency said, lot of oil, logistics are the problem. It’s dislocation. It’s a serious problem. So what he’s referring to there is being able to actually move it around. I know you said there’s, there’s one vessel that’s gone through the Strait of Hormuz. 20 million barrels per day typically go through it. When do you get back to that level?

    SEC. WRIGHT: Oh, I think it will be relatively soon. Of course, I don’t know exactly. All of our military assets right now are focused on ending Iran’s ability to kill their neighbors, threaten American soldiers and threaten ship traffic in the Strait of Hormuz, but that’s going swimmingly well. Their missile launches are down 90%, the drone launches are down over 80% I think in the relatively near term, you’re going to see their capacity so low that we’ll see more normal ship traffic return to the Strait of Hormuz.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: So you don’t think Navy escorts of vessels are necessary?

    SEC WRIGHT: They might be. They might be. The U.S. is here to do everything we can to keep world oil markets supplied. Yes, if they have some residual–

    MARGARET BRENNAN: –When will you make that decision?

    SEC. WRIGHT: We’re, we’re in engagement right now with people that want to get tankers moving out of the Gulf. And so, yes, there could be there- early tankers probably will involve some direct protection by the U.S. military, but most important is to defang their ability to threaten these ships.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: So the president had said he was open to tapping the American stockpile of oil, the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, but I saw you on other networks this morning, kind of throwing cold water on the idea. You referred to it as depleted. Are you saying America doesn’t have adequate stockpiles?

    SEC. WRIGHT: No. America still has over 400 million barrels of oil in our strategic petroleum reserve, and, of course, robust production. We’re, we’re, more than happy to use that if it’s needed. But as you said earlier, it’s a logistics issue. Where do they need oil? They need oil at refineries in Europe and in Asia. And that’s why we took a very pragmatic step. There’s over 100 million barrels of floating Russian crude waiting in line to deliver to China. That’s going to be sold, it’s going to be refined, but that could be one or two months from now. So in a pragmatic way, with no change in U.S. policy towards Russia, we told the Indians, bring that into your refineries. You know, if you, if you’re feeling a shortage of crude, prices are being bid up, draw down that Russian crude stocks that are sitting right offshore.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: Yeah. So on that point, the U.S. has temporarily suspended some sanctions to make that Russian oil, you say was already going to be sold anyway, make it available. But doesn’t Russia still financially benefit from that? Why isn’t the U.S. seizing those Russian tankers if they are our adversary?

    SEC. WRIGHT: Because right now, because right now, we’re worried about Iran and fixing a 47-year problem there, and we’re worried about American consumers. We want to stop the rise in–

    MARGARET BRENNAN: –Russia was helping Iran–

    SEC. WRIGHT: –gasoline and diesel prices. Well, there’s been rumors of that. We don’t know if that’s true or not. Certainly, they’ve gotten a strong message from us. But this is oil already on the ocean–

    MARGARET BRENNAN: –These Iranian drones have Russian parts in them. The Russians have been buying Iranian drones. That is very well documented, and CBS has confirmed and reported that there was sharing of intelligence. Russia providing intel to target Americans. So how is Russia not part of this?

    SEC. WRIGHT: Look, Russia, Russia is expert at causing trouble around the world, so I’m not saying they’re not. I’m saying I don’t- if they’re helping Iran, it’s not working very well, but we’re not helping Russia by just accelerating the sale of their oil to stop the rise of energy prices and keep European and Asian refineries in oil. We’re just doing pragmatic things to get through a short period that will bring in an era of even lower energy prices because a major energy producing region of the world, the Middle East, will no longer have a strong, powerful Iran that can threaten their neighbors, that can threaten the United States of America and was not far away from a nuclear bomb. That’s an–

    MARGARET BRENNAN: –How much–

    SEC. WRIGHT: –unacceptable scenario. That’s the risk to energy prices was not doing anything.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: So when the Qataris say you could see $150 barrel in oil, that’s something America could stomach? President Trump wouldn’t say, I’m done with this war because I can’t stand the political pressure and the American people saying I don’t like what I’m paying at the pump?

    SEC. WRIGHT: No, the president’s going to continue to stay focused on ending a 47-year conflict, stay focused on growing the global energy supply. This is actually part of that effort. It does involve a temporary impediment to energy production, but on the other side, it will allow much more energy production and much lower energy prices. But this is not a long term conflict. Most presidents have just thought, they’ll kick the can down the road. The risk is simply too great to kick that increasingly dangerous can down the road.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: Yeah.

    SEC. WRIGHT: President Trump’s bold leadership is enough’s enough. We’re going to put it to an end.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: I want to ask you about Venezuela. The U.S. deposed Maduro. He’s sitting in a prison. Just this past week, though, we had the interior secretary visiting Venezuela and sitting across from Maduro’s Chief thug, Diosdado Cabello. This is someone who has a $25 million bounty on his head. He ran the prisons, he ran the militias. He was treated as a counterpart to an American official. Is this the same playbook the Trump administration is going to run in Iran, that you will deal with the same regime you’ve been telling me is terrible to deal with for 47 years?

    SEC. WRIGHT: We don’t know what the regime will be in place at the, at the end of this conflict, but we do know that regime will not have a massive weapons arsenal, that that regime will no longer be a massive threat to Americans and to the Middle East and to global oil supplies. President Trump is using bold leadership. We can’t change the world at a blink of an eye, but we can steer it in massively positive directions, and yes, Venezuela is a great example of that. Crime in the nearby Trinidad and Tobago has plummeted already from our actions in Venezuela, and President Trump’s insistence that he’s going to work with that our neighbors to reduce drug trafficking in the Western Hemisphere. Leadership takes- involves risks, but if you want to drive improvement, you’ve got to be confident, you’ve got to have the right agenda, and you’ve got to have the courage to do it. This president does.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: Energy Secretary Wright, thank you for your time this morning. Face the Nation will be back in a minute. Stay with us.

  • 蒂姆·凯恩参议员在2026年3月8日《面对国家》节目中的采访实录


    2026-03-08T12:40:00-0400 / 哥伦比亚广播公司新闻

    以下是2026年3月8日在《面对国家》节目中对弗吉尼亚州民主党参议员蒂姆·凯恩的采访实录。

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    玛格丽特·布伦南:我们现在请来了弗吉尼亚州民主党参议员蒂姆·凯恩,参议员,很高兴您能来到这里。

    蒂姆·凯恩参议员(D-VA):谢谢,玛格丽特。

    玛格丽特·布伦南:您在多个相关委员会任职,包括武装部队委员会和外交关系委员会。我想问问您关于美国驻奥斯陆大使馆附近昨晚发生爆炸的事情。挪威警方表示,这可能是一起与当前安全局势相关的蓄意袭击。我们对这里的威胁以及对其他美国驻外机构了解多少?

    凯恩参议员:存在威胁。由于我在外交关系委员会的工作,我一直在与世界各地的国务院人员进行沟通。安全措施已经升级,其他使馆或领事馆也出现了抗议活动,这些抗议活动似乎正在向暴力方向升级,至少对我们的外交官构成了威胁。我们有美国公民被困在该地区。他们被告知回家,但直到商业航班停飞后才收到通知。因此,我的办公室本周一直在帮助弗吉尼亚州的公民回家。我们有责任确保我们勇敢的专业人员无论身在何处都能安全,也有责任确保我们的公民安全。玛格丽特,这就是我一直追问的一个问题:我们从25年的中东战争中什么都没学到吗?昨天有包括一名弗吉尼亚人在内的首批美国伤亡人员回国,这让我担心答案是否定的。

    玛格丽特·布伦南:那么您估计还有多少美国人被困在中东?

    凯恩参议员:有数千人。不过,不是每个美国人都选择回家。如果把所有相关的人加起来,可能有数十万之多。我正在与那些联系我的弗吉尼亚州人合作。几天前,我们帮助一名里士满地区的居民从迪拜乘坐航班回国。我们正在处理这些事情。但更让我担心的是,一些使馆和领事馆的工作人员没有被通知回国。他们仍然留在那里,而且他们的安全保障往往不如我们期望的那样。所以我们必须密切关注他们。

    玛格丽特·布伦南:让我们谈谈国内情况。我们正处于国土安全部分停摆的第四周。这意味着海岸警卫队、特勤局和运输安全管理局的人员没有工资。但美国移民和海关执法局(ICE)和美国海关与边境保护局(CBP)仍在获得资金。考虑到民主党人的压力并没有影响到他们希望看到政策改变的机构,这真的是一个有效的策略吗?

    凯恩参议员:嗯,我们已经向共和党人提出,我们已经就除ICE和CBP之外的所有其他机构的资金达成了协议。让我们通过这些资金法案。我们可以将ICE和CBP的改革讨论仅限于这两个机构,并为其他机构提供资金。到目前为止,共和党人一直阻挠这些努力。我们希望为TSA、联邦紧急事务管理局(FEMA)、海岸警卫队和美国网络安全和基础设施安全局(CISA)提供资金。我们希望为这些机构提供资金。我们已经在两党和参众两院之间达成了一项资金协议。让我们先通过这些法案。然后,关于ICE和CBP的改革讨论,共和党人去年夏天已经给了他们资金,他们现在并不缺钱。我们可以继续讨论这两个机构的改革。

    玛格丽特·布伦南:我想问的是,CBS获得的一份国土安全部关键事件报告称,伊朗宗教领袖发布了宗教法令,呼吁穆斯林为最高领袖的死亡复仇。国土安全部表示,过去这类宗教法令并没有真正引发袭击事件,但——

    凯恩参议员:——但你必须对此感到担忧。

    玛格丽特·布伦南:——但在当前时刻你必须对此感到担忧。那么,是否有充分的理由结束这场僵局?

    凯恩参议员:我完全同意。让我们为目前没有资金的所有这些机构提供资金,同时将ICE和CBP的讨论限制在必要的改革范围内。

    玛格丽特·布伦南:为什么这种情况没有发生?

    凯恩参议员:嗯,我们在参议院提出了这个请求,但共和党人迄今为止拒绝了。他们说,要么全部资金都通过,要么什么都不通过。我们说,我们已经就所有其他机构达成了一致。让我们先通过这些。但ICE和CBP需要改革。我们已经非常明确地表明了这一点,美国公民也希望进行这些改革。这就是我们目前的重点。而且他们现在资金充足,因为共和党人在去年夏天的和解法案中已经提供了资金。

    玛格丽特·布伦南:我们看到诺姆部长本周失去了职位。您曾表示后悔投票支持她——

    凯恩参议员:——大错特错——

    玛格丽特·布伦南:——您是支持她的民主党人之一——

    凯恩参议员:——她曾是州长。州长通常可以成为很好的内阁秘书。但我们从中吸取了教训,这一点将影响未来的决策,那就是她并没有掌控权力。斯蒂芬·米勒才是真正发号施令的人。只要他继续发号施令而不进行改革,这个部门就会继续成为一个非常、非常脱离正轨、叛逆的部门。

    玛格丽特·布伦南:那么,如果您认为马克韦恩·穆林参议员只是斯蒂芬·米勒的傀儡,您需要从他那里看到或听到什么才能投他的票?

    凯恩参议员:这就是我们的担忧。他可能会证明并非如此。但我们想要看到的不仅仅是部门名称的改变。我们想要看到ICE和CBP运作方式的改革。它们应该像地方执法部门那样运作,而不是在没有搜查令的情况下入侵人们的家,应该配备随身摄像头,不戴口罩(注:此处可能为原文口误或翻译调整,原意应为“应该佩戴随身摄像头,而不是随意进入”)。

    玛格丽特·布伦南:是行政搜查令,而不是司法搜查令,对吗?

    凯恩参议员:是的——

    玛格丽特·布伦南:——他们使用的那种。

    凯恩参议员:嗯,对于住宅,我认为司法搜查令非常重要,这对于入侵人们的住宅至关重要。这些是我们地方执法机构遵循的基本原则。阿什兰镇警察局就遵循这些原则。我们应该要求我们的联邦机构也完全遵循这些原则。

    玛格丽特·布伦南:您还在武装部队委员会任职。

    凯恩参议员:是的。

    玛格丽特·布伦南:五角大楼可能正在考虑一项补充预算请求,以资助这场新的中东战争。战略与国际研究中心(CSIS)估计,战争的前100小时花费了近40亿美元。您听说过相关的成本估算吗?我们在补充预算法案方面进展如何?会得到民主党的支持吗?

    凯恩参议员:我们不知道白宫是否会提出补充预算请求。我们几天前参加了一个机密简报会,这个问题被提了出来。我可以说的是,这并不涉及机密,政府表示他们还没有做出决定。我目前的目标有两个:停止这场战争,我认为这场战争既不合法也非常不明智,同时保护我们的军队。如果补充预算法案提交上来,我会看看它如何符合这些目标。保护军队是关键。这也是我想要停止战争的原因之一。我认为特朗普总统的做法使他们面临完全不必要的风险。因此,如果他们提交补充预算法案,我们会查看它如何实现这些目标。

    玛格丽特·布伦南:他们告诉过您这取决于什么吗?为什么他们不确定是否需要更多资金?是因为冲突的持续时间吗?

    凯恩参议员:我认为这是问题所在。传统上,人们不会在冲突进行到一半时就提出补充预算请求,因为可能会导致资金不足。我认为他们可能不想提出补充预算请求,因为他们试图避免国会就伊朗战争进行辩论和投票。我提出了一项战争权力法案投票,但本周我失败了。但我可以向您保证,我不会退缩。我们还有其他方式来讨论这场战争在经过25年中东战争后是否符合美国利益。他们可能想避免就这一问题进行投票,并试图为此拖延时间。他们会做出决定,我们需要关注法案内容。

    玛格丽特·布伦南:很快,我想问一下仍被关押在伊朗埃文监狱的美国人的情况。其中一名是记者雷扎·瓦利扎德,另一名是70岁的卡姆兰·赫克马蒂。您知道他们正在采取什么措施来保护他们,防止他们遭到报复吗?

    凯恩参议员:我不知道,我对此感到担忧。如果学校的孩子们在轰炸中丧生,很可能是美国发动的轰炸,尽管总统和国防部长现在试图编造说是伊朗所为。如果学校的孩子们在轰炸中丧生,我担心被关押在那里的美国公民的命运。

    玛格丽特·布伦南:我们知道军方正在调查此事,赫格塞斯部长已经就女子学校的事件发表了讲话。我们今天就到这里。参议员,感谢您的时间。

    凯恩参议员:很高兴和您交流,玛格丽特。

    玛格丽特·布伦南:我们稍后继续。

    Transcript: Sen. Tim Kaine on “Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan,” March 8, 2026

    2026-03-08T12:40:00-0400 / CBS News

    The following is the transcript of the interview with Sen. Tim Kaine, Democrat of Virginia, that aired on “Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan” on March 8, 2026.

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    MARGARET BRENNAN: We’re joined now by Virginia Democratic Senator Tim Kaine, good to have you here, Senator.

    SEN. TIM KAINE (D-VA): Thank you, Margaret.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: You sit on many relevant committees, armed services, foreign relations. I want to ask you about this explosion overnight nearby the U.S. Embassy in Oslo. I understand that the Norwegian police say it may have been a deliberate attack linked to the current security situation. What do we know about the threat here and to other American posts?

    SEN. KAINE: There are threats. Because of my service on the Foreign Relations Committee, I’ve been in dialogue with State Department personnel around the world. Escalated security, other embassies or consulates have had protests, protests that kind of were merging toward violence or at least frightening to our diplomats. We have American citizens stranded in the region. They were told to come home, but they weren’t told to come home until after commercial air flights had stopped. And so my office has been working with Virginians this week trying to help them come home. And so we owe it to our brave professionals wherever they are, and our citizens to keep them safe. And, Margaret, that’s just one more reason why I’ve been asking the question, have we learned nothing from 25 years of war in the Middle East? And with the arrival of the first American casualties back home yesterday, including a Virginian, I worry that the answer to that is no.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: So do you have an estimate on the number of Americans still stranded in the Middle East?

    SEN. KAINE: It’s thousands and thousands. Now, not every American chooses to come home. So there’s hundreds of thousands, if you just add them all up, who is coming home. I am working with the Virginians who are reaching out to my office. We were able to facilitate one Richmond area resident getting home from Dubai on a flight a couple of days back. And so it’s sort of dealing with that. But what worries me a little bit more is that some of the professionals at embassies and consuls are not being told to come home. And they’re sort of there, and often their security presence is not what we wish it would be. So we have to pay close attention to them.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: Let me ask you about the homeland now. We’re in this fourth week of a partial homeland security shutdown. That means people at the Coast Guard, Secret Service, and TSA are not getting paid. But ICE and CBP are still funded. Given that the pressure from Democrats isn’t affecting the agencies where Democrats want to see policy change, is this really an effective strategy?

    SEN. KAINE: Well, we have said to the Republicans, we’ve worked out funding for all those agencies other than ICE and CBP. Let’s just pass those funding bills. Let’s confine the ICE and CBP reform discussion just to those two agencies and fund the others. Thus far, Republicans have blocked those efforts. We want to fund TSA, FEMA, Coast Guard and CISA. We want to fund those agencies. And we have a funding agreement that’s already been negotiated between both parties and both houses. So let’s do that. And then ICE and CBP, the Republicans, gave them money last summer. They’re not running out of money. We can continue the reform discussion there.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: Well, I ask because CBS obtained a Homeland Security critical incident note that cites Iranian religious leaders issuing fatwas, calling on Muslims to avenge the supreme leader’s death. DHS says that, you know, in the past, these kind of fatwas haven’t really inspired attacks necessarily but–

    SEN. KAINE: –But you’ve got to be worried about it.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: –But you’ve got to be worried about it in this moment in time. So isn’t there a good argument to be made to move on this standoff, to end it?

    SEN. KAINE: I completely agree. Let’s fund all these agencies that don’t have funds right now, and let’s confine the ICE and CBP discussion to what are the reforms necessary.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: Why isn’t that happening?

    SEN. KAINE: Well, we’ve offered this on the floor, and the Republicans have thus far rejected. They’ve said, you’ve got to fund everything or nothing. And we said, we’ve agreed on all the other agencies. Let’s do that. But ICE and CBP need reforms. We’ve made that very, very plain, and American citizens want there to be reforms. And so that is the focus right now. And they do have enough money because the Republicans provided to them last summer in the reconciliation bill.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: We saw Secretary Noem lose her job this week. You’ve said you do regret having voted for her–

    SEN. KAINE: –Big mistake–

    MARGARET BRENNAN: –you were one of the Democrats who did–

    SEN. KAINE: –she was a governor. Governors are often good cabinet secretaries. But what we learned, and this bears going forward, is that she wasn’t calling the shots. Stephen Miller is calling the shots. And as long as he is calling the shots without reforms, this is going to continue to be a very, very rogue, renegade department.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: Well, do you need to see and hear something from Senator Markwayne Mullin to get you to vote for him if you’re saying he’s just going to be basically a puppet of Stephen Miller?

    SEN. KAINE: That’s our fear. So he could demonstrate otherwise. But what we want to see is not just the change in the nameplate on the door. We want to see reforms to the way ICE and CB- CBP operates. They should operate like local law enforcement does, not invading people’s homes without warrants, body cameras, not wearing masks.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: Administrative, not judicial warrants, right?

    SEN. KAINE: Yes–

    MARGARET BRENNAN: –that they use.

    SEN. KAINE: Well, for homes, I would say judicial warrants, I think that would be important for invading people’s homes. These are basic principles that our local law enforcement agencies live by. The Ashland town police lives by them. We should ask our federal agencies to do exactly the same thing.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: You’re on armed services as well.

    SEN. KAINE: Yes.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: The Pentagon may be looking at a supplemental budget request to fund this new war in the Middle East. CSIS estimates the first 100 hours of the war cost nearly $4 billion. Have you heard an estimate on cost? Where are we on this supplemental? Will it get any Democratic support?

    SEN. KAINE: We don’t know that the White House is sending a supplemental. So we had a classified briefing the other day, and the topic came up. What I can say, and it’s not classified, is the administration said they haven’t made a decision. My goals right now are twofold, stop this war, which I view as both illegal and profoundly unwise, and protect our troops. If a supplemental comes over, I’m gonna be looking to see, okay, how does it square with those goals? Protecting the troops is key. That’s one of the reasons I want to stop the war. I think they’re just exposed to a completely unnecessary risk by what President Trump has done. So we’ll look at a supplemental if they send one to see, okay, how does it accomplish those goals?

    MARGARET BRENNAN: Did they tell you what that’s dependent on? Why don’t they know if they need more money? Is it the duration of time of the conflict?

    SEN. KAINE: I think that’s the issue. You traditionally don’t ask for a supplemental halfway through because you might ask for an inadequate amount. I think they may not want to ask for a supplemental because they’re trying to avoid debates and votes in Congress on the Iran war right now. I put up a war powers vote that I lost earlier this week. But I can assure you, I’m not going away. We have other means to have a debate and discussion about whether this war is in the U.S.’s interest after 25 years of war in the Middle East. They may want to avoid a vote on that and are trying to delay it for that reason. They’ll make that call, and we have to look at the content.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: Very quickly, I want to ask you about some of the Americans that are still being held in Iran, in Evin Prison. One of them, Reza Valizadeh, a journalist. One of them, Kamran Hekmati, a 70-year-old man. Do you have any idea what is being done to protect them or stop them from being retaliated against?

    SEN. KAINE: I do not, and I fear about that. Look, if school kids are being killed in bombing, likely U.S. bombing, although the president and the secretary of defense are now trying to invent a claim that it was Iran. If school kids are being killed, I worry about the fate of U.S. pris- U.S. citizens who are being held prisoners there.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: Well, we know the military is investigating that, Secretary Hegseth has said, in regard to the girls’ school. We have to leave it there. Senator, thank you for your time.

    SEN. KAINE: Glad to be with you, Margaret.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: We will be right back.

  • 乌克兰驻美大使奥尔加·斯特凡尼什娜访谈实录


    2026年3月8日《面对国家》节目(玛格丽特·布伦南主持)

    以下是2026年3月8日在《面对国家》节目中播出的对乌克兰驻美国大使奥尔加·斯特凡尼什娜的采访实录。


    玛格丽特·布伦南:我们现在转向乌克兰战争,以及乌克兰驻美国大使奥尔加·斯特凡尼什娜。欢迎回到《面对国家》。

    乌克兰驻美大使奥尔加·斯特凡尼什娜:布伦南,谢谢你邀请我。

    玛格丽特·布伦南:所以,对乌克兰最大的威胁之一是俄罗斯长期以来向贵国发射的弹道导弹。解决方案是美国的“爱国者”防空系统和拦截弹。如你所知,这类武器目前供应短缺,而美国在海湾地区的盟友也表示他们同样面临供应不足的问题,需要这些装备。你的总统表示他担心美国会减少对乌克兰的防空支持。这对贵国来说是多大的问题?

    斯特凡尼什娜大使:谢谢你,布伦南,提出这个问题。当然,我们也在公开讨论此事,同时也进行了非公开的磋商。但最重要的是,我们看到目前伊朗局势的发展是十年来全球舞台上最重要的事态。因此,资源短缺不应成为问题。我们相信美国国防工业有能力确保所有战线都得到保障。乌克兰有资源和能力采购更多装备,我们正在积极探索可行方案。但你知道,我们最近又遭遇了4架“见证者-136”无人机袭击乌克兰民用建筑的事件——这之所以可能发生,是因为伊朗三年前就成为了俄罗斯侵略行动的战略支持者。我们看到廉价技术的介入造成的危害,我们已准备好应对措施。

    玛格丽特·布伦南:我在节目早些时候问过能源部长克里斯·赖特同样的问题,因为俄罗斯和伊朗在此方面是盟友,他们进行资源和技术交易,在很多方面结盟。他似乎表示他们并非主要因素,但你称他们是直接参与者。

    斯特凡尼什娜大使:当然,他们绝对是关键因素。“见证者”无人机技术的开发就是为了攻击平民、打击士气、造成平民伤亡。它已经造成数百名乌克兰儿童死亡,无数家庭破碎,这是对战争的战略支持。俄罗斯多年来一直投资于伊朗、委内瑞拉、叙利亚等国的政权,而非双边关系或发展投资。因为他们认为像伊朗现在这样采取果断行动是不可能的,过去在委内瑞拉也是如此,几年前在叙利亚更是如此。现在他们失去了这些影响力来源,实力削弱。但我们不能忘记,乌克兰已经证明俄罗斯与这些国家没有本质区别,只是规模更大。而且,我们从特朗普总统的新政策中看到了新的现实,这让俄罗斯非常恐惧。

    玛格丽特·布伦南:你的总统称美国要求乌克兰向其提供反无人机技术,这项技术何时能到位?何时能投入使用?

    斯特凡尼什娜大使:我们比世界上任何人都清楚危机时刻的需求。当我们看到海湾国家民众正在遭受死亡威胁时,我们提出的是立即行动和反应。我们能够保障天空安全,提供防空能力,因为乌克兰军民拥有相关知识和经验。乌克兰武装部队的能力不仅包括无人机,还涵盖整个作战体系——局势每周都在变化,需要快速反应的机制,而这正是乌克兰在全球范围内独有的优势。

    玛格丽特·布伦南:所以,派遣顾问提供帮助?听起来是特殊……

    斯特凡尼什娜大使:不仅是顾问,还包括能力支持。乌克兰的无人机能力不仅是设备本身,更是一整套作战体系。局势每周都在变化,需要快速反应的人员和机制,而这正是乌克兰在全球范围内独有的优势。

    玛格丽特·布伦南:几天前,特朗普总统称普京已准备好达成协议,并表示泽连斯基总统必须“行动起来”完成协议,还称他是“乌克兰的P.T.巴纳姆(指擅长炒作的商人)”。尽管乌克兰正帮助美国,双方关系似乎仍很紧张,这是怎么回事?

    斯特凡尼什娜大使:我认为几分钟的讨论不足以全面分析。但我们通过行动评估局势:美国仍通过机制向乌克兰提供军事装备,特朗普总统最近对俄罗斯实施了严厉制裁。我们已经与美俄进行三方对话以结束战争,这些都是重要进展。对我们来说,最重要的是能够保卫自己,保护城市,而我们正在尽最大努力利用美国的支持做到这一点。我们非常感谢特朗普总统的诸多举措,尽管有时的言论并不清晰或积极,但乌克兰人民经历了太多苦难,不会被几句言论干扰。我们深知,乌克兰是世界上最渴望结束战争的国家。

    玛格丽特·布伦南:你有什么证据表明俄罗斯正在帮助伊朗打击美国盟友?

    斯特凡尼什娜大使:有一些信息已经披露,但我们不会在媒体上公开分享。不过我可以保证,不仅是乌克兰,北约体系内的许多国家都掌握大量信息和情报资源。这些信息已提供给所有盟友和伙伴,包括美国。这些信息是确凿无疑的,不存在模糊地带。

    玛格丽特·布伦南:但这超出了目标信息分享的范畴,而哥伦比亚广播公司已经报道过?

    斯特凡尼什娜大使:我不便评论,但俄罗斯多年来一直支持伊朗、委内瑞拉、叙利亚等国的政权,这种合作促成了俄罗斯本土的产业发展。

    玛格丽特·布伦南:大使,感谢你今天抽出时间。

    Transcript: Olga Stefanishyna, Ukraine’s ambassador to the U.S., on “Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan,” March 8, 2026

    2026-03-08T12:47:00-0400 / CBS News

    The following is the transcript of the interview with Olga Stefanishyna, Ukraine’s ambassador to the U.S., that aired on “Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan” on March 8, 2026.

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    MARGARET BRENNAN: We turn now to the war in Ukraine, and Ukraine’s ambassador to the United States, Olga Stefanishyna. Welcome back to Face the Nation.

    UKRAINIAN AMBASSADOR OLGA STEFANISHYNA: Well, Margaret, thank you for having me.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: So, one of the biggest threats to Ukraine has been Russia’s ballistic missiles that it has been firing into your country for some time. The solution has been the Patriot system, the American interceptors. They are in short supply, as you well know, and now America’s allies in the Gulf tell us that they are also in short-supply there and they need them. Your president said he is concerned America is going to reduce its air defense support for Ukraine. How much of a problem is this for your country?

    AMB. STEFANISHYNA: Well, thank you, Margaret, for asking this question. Of course, we have been talking about that publicly as well and have been having non-public discussions. But the most important thing that we see that, you know, the events happening right now with the war in Iran have been so resolute that probably these are the most-important developments on a global arena over a decade. So, no shortages of means should be an issue. And we’re sure that the American defense industry is capable of making sure that all the fronts are covered. Ukraine has the resources and ability to procure more, and we are looking forward for exploring the options, how to do it. But also, you know, we ended up with four 300 Shahed drones over the houses of Ukraine, which was only possible because Iran has been a strategic enabler of the Russian aggression three years ago, and we see what the involvement of cheap technologies is, and we have been ready to contribute.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: Well, I asked that earlier in the program of the Energy Secretary, Chris Wright, because Russia and Iran have been allied here. They have been trading resources and technology. They are allied in many ways. He seemed to say they were not really a factor. You say they are directly one.

    AMB. STEFANISHYNA: Well, I mean, they are absolutely a factor, because basically the Shahed drone technology was developed to attack people, to demoralize population, to cause the losses among civilians. So, it killed, like, hundreds of Ukrainian kids, so many families, and this was a strategic enabler of war. And Russia has been- Russia were not investing in bilateral relations or development or investments. They were investing in regimes like Iran, Venezuela, and Syria, just because they thought it’s not possible to have the resolute action as it is now taking place with Iran and as it was before in Venezuela. And it was not possible a couple of years ago with Syria. So, they are deprived of means of their influence, they are weaker. But also we should not forget that Ukraine has shown that Russia is no different from all of these countries. It’s just bigger, and we see that, you know, the experience which is being gained right now, and the new reality which is been formed by President Trump also paves the way, the new reality for the Russians, and I’m sure they’re really, really afraid of it.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: Well, your president said he was asked by the United States to provide anti-drone technology that Ukraine has to America. When does that arrive? When will that be operational?

    AMB. STEFANISHYNA: So, you know, we understand more than anybody in this world what is needed in a moment of crisis. What is needed when you see when your people are dying just across so many cities of the Gulf countries. And what we suggested is the immediate action and immediate reaction. So, we can secure the skies. We can provide the air defense because we have so much knowledge. And these are only Ukrainian people, Ukrainian armed forces who have this knowledge and capability, so we are able to provide it to the United States and the Gulf countries and this is what we did. We are not going to stand aside knowing that people are dying because we know how painful it is and we will do everything we can to make sure that this resolute action is ending up with something that is called positive.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: So, sending advisors to help. It sounds like special–

    AMB. STEFANISHYNA: And also capabilities. So, it’s the drone capabilities of Ukraine is not only the drone or the people, it’s the whole spectrum of actions you’re taking, because situation is changing every week and you need to have people and the mechanism which allow to react immediately and this is what only Ukraine has at the entire planet.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: So just a few days ago, President Trump said he thinks Vladimir Putin is ready to make a deal. And he said that Volodymyr Zelensky, your president, has to get on the ball, and he has to get a deal done. And he referred to him as a P.T. Barnum of Ukraine. It seems like the relationship is still really tense, even though you’re talking about Ukraine helping the United States. What’s going on here?

    AMB. STEFANISHYNA: Well, I mean, I think definitely a couple of minutes of this discussion is not enough for that. But I think we’re assessing the situation by actions. And the actions are that there is a mechanism where Ukraine still can get access to American military equipment. President Trump has released significant sanctions to the Russian Federation over the last months. And also we are in dialogue already trilaterally with the United States and Russians on ending the war. All of this is a very important development and we are looking forward for their success. But for us the most important thing is that we are able to defend ourselves and secure our cities and we’re doing that to the extent we can with the American support. And we have never been too tired to give credit to President Trump for so many important things he did. Although the rhetorics we hear sometimes is not something that really very clear or very positive. But we’re a tough country, we’re tough people, we have been through so much that a couple of words is not really something that can distract us, and we know what we know, that Ukraine is a country in the world which really wants the war over more than anybody, and this is where we stand.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: What evidence do you have that Russia is helping Iran in its war right now on these American allies?

    AMB. STEFANISHYNA: Well, some information has been provided. It’s not something that we would want to share, you know, in a media or go public with. But I can also assure you that it’s not only Ukraine. There are, like, a lot of countries who have a lot information and a disposal and intel community is very well developed across all the NATO formats. So whatever information is there, it’s already at the disposal of, you know, all allies and partners, including the United States. And. I’m sure this is an information which is black and white. It’s nothing which could be called gray.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: But it goes beyond sharing targeting information, which CBS has reported?

    AMB. STEFANISHYNA: I’m not sure that I could really comment on that, but I think we should look also in the context that Russia has been supporting the regimes of the countries I’ve mentioned, like Venezuela, like Syria, like Iran, for years, and this partnership was possible and evolved in building the productions in the Russian Federation.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: Ambassador, thank you for your time today.

  • 采访实录:以色列驻美大使迈克尔·莱特尔谈伊朗局势


    2026年3月8日于《面对国家》节目播出

    2026-03-08T12:52:00-0400 / CBS新闻

    以下是以色列驻美国大使迈克尔·莱特尔博士于2026年3月8日在《面对国家》节目中接受采访的完整实录。

    玛格丽特·布伦南:我们现在连线以色列驻美国大使迈克尔·莱特尔博士。欢迎来到《面对国家》节目。

    以色列大使迈克尔·莱特尔:很高兴与您交流。早上好。

    玛格丽特·布伦南:据特朗普总统称,您的总理和美国总统每天都会通话。他们是否就战争的起止时间达成了一致?

    莱特尔大使:我想说,我们已经合作数月,甚至在6月“雄狮”和“午夜之锤”行动之前就已开始。这种合作包括每日通话,双方会评估战争进展情况,我相信我们最终会就战争结束达成完全共识。

    玛格丽特·布伦南:所以您相信并信任美国会在这场战争期间继续支持以色列,即使美国经济面临压力,比如油价上涨?

    莱特尔大使:我们两国及两军之间的合作达到了前所未有的水平。这是一项极为重要的行动,实际上并不受时间限制。当你在执行如此关键的任务时,不会看秒表。我们必须完成这项任务。伊朗是一个支持恐怖主义的国家,必须被摧毁,这就是我们的核心目标。

    玛格丽特·布伦南:但您是否同意美国官员称这场战争只需几周时间结束的评估?

    莱特尔大使:我们认为确实如此。我们看到这个军事恐怖政权的根基正在出现裂痕。他们在传达命令时遇到了严重困难,指挥系统内就最高领导人继任者的任命存在分歧。他们正面临重大危机。他们向12个邻国乃至欧洲无理发射弹道导弹,这表明他们内部存在巨大问题。我们对其指挥中心的打击行动取得了成功。

    玛格丽特·布伦南:特朗普总统昨日被问及是否会派遣军队确保伊朗浓缩铀供应安全,他表示不排除这种可能。伊朗目前是否已控制国内的浓缩铀,以色列的计划是如何确保其安全的?

    莱特尔大使:以色列的计划当然是确保这些铀材料的安全。

    玛格丽特·布伦南:具体如何确保?

    莱特尔大使:具体操作细节属于军事机密,布伦南女士,我认为您不会希望我在周日早晨的《面对国家》节目中讨论这类内容。我们必须完成这个目标,但首先要创造条件,确保能够获取并移除这些浓缩铀。这显然在我们的关注范围内,我们会妥善处理。此次行动的整体目标是阻止伊朗获取核武器,这一点我们铭记在心,必将实现。

    玛格丽特·布伦南:关键是,如果政权倒台导致局势混乱,这些材料可能落入错误之手。以色列是否排除派遣地面部队的可能?如何在不派地面部队的情况下确保安全?

    莱特尔大使:我们绝不会允许伊朗政权继续威胁我们和邻国的安全。如果需要,我们会采取必要措施——我们更希望是伊朗民众自己起来反抗。伊朗80%的民众反对现政权,只是一直未能表达诉求。

    玛格丽特·布伦南:您指的是伊朗军队还是革命卫队?

    莱特尔大使:我指的是伊朗人民。两个月前,伊朗民众已展现出反抗的迹象。当民众忍无可忍时,就会爆发。一旦政权失去百万武装力量的支持,民众就能推翻它。我们一直在支持伊朗各少数群体——库尔德人、巴鲁奇人、阿塞拜疆人——帮助他们团结起来,共同争取自由。

    玛格丽特·布伦南:特朗普总统昨日称不希望伊朗库尔德人(占伊朗人口约10%)参与冲突,以免局势复杂化。土耳其外长称与鲁比奥就此沟通,认为以色列意图煽动库尔德人介入。这是否准确?

    莱特尔大使:我不会太在意埃尔多安的言论。他一直在宣称要建立横跨中东的“哈里发国”,包括夺取沙特和以色列。我们的目标是建立一个统一的伊朗,同时保障少数群体的政治权利。我们不是支持某个特定少数群体,而是所有少数群体。我们鼓励他们团结起来,这是47年来伊朗反对派未能做到的。一旦他们团结起来,就能推翻现政权,这才是最终目标。

    玛格丽特·布伦南:您的总理周六发表讲话称,对革命卫队成员,放下武器者可获赦免,顽抗者将自食其果。若以色列不派地面部队,您希望革命卫队向谁投降?

    莱特尔大使:历史上有先例,比如罗马尼亚民众推翻齐奥塞斯库政权。伊朗民众只需停止参与镇压,转而反抗。我们的目标是让伊朗不再支持恐怖主义、不再向邻国发射导弹、不再追求核武器。通过“雄狮”和“史诗打击”行动,我们有信心实现这一目标。

    玛格丽特·布伦南:最后,关于以色列是否故意打击了美国希望扶持的伊朗“务实派”领导人,以色列是否蓄意为之?

    莱特尔大使:玛格丽特,我们的精准打击能力毋庸置疑,但在同一建筑内同时存在多个目标时,我们无法做到毫厘不差。伊朗民众才是推翻政权的关键力量,他们需要表达诉求的机会。

    玛格丽特·布伦南:感谢您今天上午的宝贵时间。

    莱特尔大使:很高兴与您交流。

    玛格丽特·布伦南:我们稍后继续。

    Transcript: Michael Leiter, Israel’s ambassador to the U.S., on “Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan,” March 8, 2026

    2026-03-08T12:52:00-0400 / CBS News

    The following is the transcript of the interview with Michael Leiter, Israel’s ambassador to the U.S., that aired on “Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan” on March 8, 2026.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: And we’re joined now by Israel’s ambassador to the United States, Dr. Michael Leiter. Welcome to ‘Face the Nation.’

    ISRAELI AMBASSADOR MICHAEL LEITER: Good to be with you. Good morning.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: So your prime minister and – the American president speak daily, according to President Trump. Have they agreed to beginning and ending the war on the same timeline?

    AMB. LEITER: We’ve been collaborating now for months, I would say, even prior to Rising Lion and Midnight Hammer in June, and that collaboration includes daily conversations in which there is an assessment of how the war is progressing, and I assume that we’re going to reach a complete understanding on the end of this war as well.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: So you believe and trust that America will stay with Israel through the duration of this, even if there are strains on the American economy, like gas prices?

    AMB. LEITER: We’ve reached a level of collaboration that we’ve never seen between our two countries and between our two militaries. This is a very important operation that doesn’t depend really on a timeline. You know, when you’re doing something that’s so critical you are not going to look at a stopwatch. This has to be finished. This is a terror-sponsoring state that has to be brought down and that’s what we’re focused on.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: But you agree with the U.S. assessment from the secretary there he said this is just a matter of weeks?

    AMB. LEITER: We believe so. We’re seeing cracks in the edifice of this military security terror regime. They’re starting to have very grave difficulties in conveying orders down through the system. There’s arguments within the system about the appointment of a successor to the supreme leader. They’re having grave difficulties. The fact that they are lashing out irrationally to all of their neighbors and firing these ballistic missiles into all of their neighbors, some 12 countries, into Europe for crying out loud, is indicative of the fact they’re having huge problems. We’re having success in these attacks on their command centers.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: So President Trump was specifically asked yesterday about sending troops in to secure Iran’s supply of enriched uranium. He said he’s not ruling it out. Does Iran currently have access to the documented enriched uranium that exists inside the country, and what is Israel’s plan to secure it?

    AMB. LEITER: Israel’s plan is to secure it, that’s for sure.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: How?

    AMB. LEITER: How exactly is an operational issue, I don’t think, Margaret, that you want me to discuss here on a Sunday morning ‘Face the Nation.’ We’ve got to do that. It’s an objective we have to accomplish, but the first thing we have to do is create a situation we’re going to be able to get to that enriched material and remove it, and that has to reach a point where there’s less kinetic activity on the ground. It’s obviously on our radar screen and we’re going to take care of it. The whole objective here of this operation is to prevent a terror state from achieving nuclear weapons. So it’s very much on our radar screen and that’s what we’re going to accomplish.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: So just to put a fine point on it the concern is that that material could end up in the wrong hands if the regime collapses and it’s a mess, right? So, how do you secure it without ground forces in some way? Is Israel ruling out ground forces?

    AMB. LEITER: We are ruling out the possibility of this regime remaining in the position where they can endanger us and their neighbors. If that includes putting boots on the ground- our preference is for the boots on the ground to be those of the Iranians. These are people who have been living under the boot of this regime now for 47 years. They want freedom. This is a whole generation out there that knows there is such a thing as freedom but has never tasted it yet. They need to put their boots on the ground and ensure their future and the future of the region.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: You mean the Iranian army, the IRGC?

    AMB. LEITER: The Iranian- the Iranian includes- no, I mean the Iranian people. 80% of the Iranian people are opposed to this regime they just haven’t been able to express themselves.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: Well and CENTCOM is telling Iranian civilians to stay home right now. Is there any organized or armed opposition inside Iran that Israel supports?

    AMB. LEITER: We’ve been talking to the minorities now for many years.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: The minorities meaning the Kurds and the Azeris?

    AMB. LEITER: The Kurds, the Balochs, the Azeris, but the Iranian people themselves, the Persians, we saw what they did two months ago. There is a point of combustion where the people will rise up and say we have had enough. We want freedom. So once we set the stage and there is no longer regime with a million armed people that are willing to shoot their fellow citizens in the back, these people are going to rise up and say we want our country back.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: Because President Trump said yesterday he does not want the Kurds, who make up about 10% of the population within Iran, he doesn’t want the kurds in neighboring countries to enter the conflict. We don’t want to make the war any more complex than it is already. Turkey’s foreign minister came and said he- he said he had spoken to Rubio about it, but he said this, ‘Israel’s intentions in this matter are not so secret.’ Turkey seems to think that your country is trying to get the Kurds to intervene here. Is that accurate?

    AMB. LEITER: I wouldn’t take the words of President Erdogan too seriously. He’s talking about his own caliphate spreading throughout the Middle East.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: He was the foreign minister.

    AMB. LEITER: He’s talking about taking over- well that’s coming down from the president- he’s talking about taking over Saudi Arabia and Israel at the same time. Look, we want a united Iran, there’s no question about it, but we want to empower the minorities to have their say in the process, in the political process. They’ve been denied of their freedom, so it’s not matter of supporting this particular minority or another, it’s supporting all the minorities. What we’re encouraging them to do is to coalesce, is to come together, to unify. If over the past 47 years the opposition of Iran would have unified, this regime would have come down a long time ago. So we can help them coalesce, we can help them unify, we can help them come together and rise up and say we’re taking our country back. That’s ultimately the end game.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: So your prime minister gave an address Saturday and said to the IRGC, to those who lay down their arms no harm shall come. To those who do not, their blood is on their own heads. If there are no Israeli ground forces who do you want the IRGC to surrender to? How does that work?

    AMB. LEITER: There are many precedents in history where the people themselves- like Romania, they turned their guns around against Ceaușescu. When people are deprived of freedom, there’s a certain point where they say enough. And all they have to do is put down their weapons and not participate- look they don’t to participate when the people rise up in shooting their own civilians, their own neighbors, their own families in many cases. So look the objective here is to achieve a situation where Iran is no longer an exporter of terrorism, is no longer raining ballistic missiles down on its neighbors and is no longer in the pursuit of nuclear weapons. That’s achievable and together the collaborative effort between Roaring Lion and Epic Rury we’re going to accomplish that.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: Ambassador, we have to leave it there for the moment, but we’ll have more questions shortly. We need to take a quick commercial break. Stay with us.

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    MARGARET BRENNAN: Welcome back to ‘Face the Nation.’ We return to our conversation with Israel’s Ambassador to the United States, Dr. Michael Leiter. Just to pick this back up, when we talk about what’s coming next in Iran, it has tremendous impact potentially for the entire region and American interests there. The president said when it comes to Iran’s next leaders most of the people we had in mind are dead. The New York Times is reporting the Israeli strike that killed the supreme leader also took out Iranian pragmatists, that was how they phrased it, who were also in that same compound, but the White House had hoped that those individuals might help lead a new Iran. Were they intentionally targeted by Israel or was this unintended?

    AMB. LEITER: No. Pragmatists are very limited in their ability to influence in Iran. There have been pragmatists all throughout the 47 years of this terror regime, they have had absolutely no influence. The people influencing, deciding for Iran are these ayatollahs who have a very apocalyptic view of the future and don’t really care about how many people they kill of their own or others. So look, what we’re hoping for is that we move into a period of a transitional government where the minorities come together, where the majority of the people come together. All the various opposition parties come together for a transitional government where they can lead the country for a year or so, together with the guidance from the United States, and Israel and other regional allies, who will no longer live under the fear of being hit by ballistic missiles and then move into a mode of a democratic process. Let the people choose. Let’s not forget the people of Iran are the most pro-western people after Israel.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: Well, but when I hear this is going to take weeks not months, referring to the combat, what you’re talking about takes a long time- that kind of transition. So we’re not just talking about a limited military operation. U.S. Pressure, Israeli pressure is going to have to be there for a long time.

    AMB. LEITER: Well, this isn’t Iraq or Afghanistan because in this case 80% of the people oppose the regime. They just need the ability to express themselves. That’s what we’re emphasizing here. This is not a repeat of forever wars. They have got to put their boots on the ground and they’re beginning to be motivated and to feel that they’re going to be able to accomplish that. They’re beginning to move forward, it’s just going to take a little bit more time. There’s no long-term gain without some minimal pain. Look, I know what war is all about. I hate war. I lost my son in war. I don’t want to see war. None of us in Israel want to see war, but we can’t have a situation where our existence is threatened every day by a regime that says they’re going to eliminate us.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: But just to put a fine point on it, did Israel intentionally target those other Iranian leaders that the president had referred to as some of the people he had in mind to lead?

    AMB. LEITER: You know Margaret, we’re pretty good at precision, I think we’ve proven that, but the degree of precision where in this very same room there are these people sitting and those people sitting, we’re not that good.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: Ambassador, thank you for your time this morning.

    AMB. LEITER: Good to be with you.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: We’ll be right back