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2026年4月12日 / 美国东部时间晚上7:17 / 哥伦比亚广播公司新闻
近几周来，教皇利奥十四世对伊朗战争的批评显著升级，从为和平祈祷转向罕见的谴责，并批评特朗普总统的相关言论。
在4月8日停火协议达成前不久，特朗普曾威胁要摧毁伊朗文明。利奥称总统的这一言论“实在不可接受”。他还发出了行动号召。
“联系当局——政治领袖、国会议员——请求他们，告诉他们为和平而努力，永远拒绝战争，”他在冈多菲堡——教皇的避暑官邸——对聚集的记者说道。
华盛顿大主教罗伯特·麦克尔罗伊红衣主教表示，伊朗冲突并非正义战争。
“天主教教义教导我们，正义战争有特定的先决条件，”麦克尔罗伊说道，“不能出于多种不同的目的开战。你必须有一个明确的目标，那就是恢复正义与和平。仅此而已。”
呼吁伊朗停火的道德之声显现
特朗普辩称，针对伊朗的军事行动是必要的，以摧毁其核计划和弹道导弹项目等。伊朗数十年来一直支持多个恐怖组织。
“这是一个可憎的政权，应当被推翻，”麦克尔罗伊说道，“但我们发动的这场战争是出于选择，我认为这背后反映出美国当下一个令人担忧的普遍现象：我们正面临一场接一场战争的可能性。”
自2月底战争爆发以来，利奥一直是呼吁结束伊朗冲突的突出声音。
“我为和平祈祷，我希望停火是各方携手为所有人争取和平、尊重各方并找到解决方案的最有效途径，”教皇在上月接受《60分钟》采访时说道，当时距离上周达成停火协议还有数周时间。
教皇利奥 《60分钟》资料图
利奥通常避免直接点名批评总统或其政府任何成员。但在棕榈主日的布道中，他似乎暗指了国防部长皮特·赫格斯的宗教言论——赫格斯是基督教徒，但并非天主教徒。
教皇警告称，耶稣“不会聆听发动战争者的祈祷”。
芝加哥大主教布拉泽·库皮奇红衣主教对白宫在社交媒体上对这场战争的“游戏化”呈现方式提出异议。他称伊朗境内爆炸事件的相关视频“令人作呕”。
“我们将人们的苦难、儿童的遇害以及我们自己士兵的牺牲当作娱乐，这是在剥夺战争受害者的人性，”库皮奇说道。
当被问及此事时，他承认有些教区居民可能不想听神职人员谈论政治。
“我说没关系，我要宣讲福音，”库皮奇说道，“上帝希望我们在世界上促进和平，因为祂希望我们成为一个人类大家庭。”
天主教会与移民政策
利奥还通过行动就特朗普政府的另一项政策表达了立场：大规模驱逐移民。7月4日美国将迎来建国250周年庆典，首位在美国出生的教皇将不会在美国度过这一天，而是前往欧洲一个主要的移民入境点。
库皮奇表示，利奥的7月4日行程传递出一个信号，即“他目前的首要任务是与那些沮丧和被边缘化的人们站在一起”。
纽瓦克大主教约瑟夫·托宾红衣主教在今年1月称美国移民及海关执法局是一个“无法无天的组织”。
“我并不是说他们是目无法纪的人，”托宾说道，“但当人们以这种方式行事时——当他们不得不隐藏身份以恐吓民众，当他们实际上能够违反我们宪法和《权利法案》的其他保障条款时——我认为必须有人站出来指出这一点，而我并不是唯一一个这么做的人。”
约瑟夫·托宾红衣主教、罗伯特·麦克尔罗伊红衣主教、布拉泽·库皮奇红衣主教 《60分钟》资料图
去年11月，美国天主教主教会议罕见地一致发表谴责声明，抨击“不分青红皂白的大规模驱逐移民”。上一次主教会议以“特别信息”形式批评在任总统的政策是在13年前，当时他们反对一项要求雇主提供避孕保健的奥巴马医改指令。
麦克尔罗伊表示，他支持加强边境安全，并认为拜登政府时期的移民政策“正失去控制”。但他也不同意特朗普政府的相关政策。
“这是在全国范围内围捕民众，”他说道，“这些人在这里过着体面、安稳的生活，已经在这里居住了很长时间，在这里养育子女，他们的许多孩子都出生在美国，是公民。这就是我们反对的地方。”
尽管天主教领导层在维护移民权利并呼吁人道对待移民，但美国大多数天主教选民都投票给了特朗普——特朗普的竞选纲领是打击移民、加固边境。皮尤研究中心针对已登记选民的调查显示，他赢得了55%的天主教选票。
不过，库皮奇在谈及大规模驱逐时表示，他认为“很明显，美国民众在说‘我们真的没有投票支持这项政策’”。
“我认为教皇利奥想要实现教皇方济各的愿景”
在去年去世前，教皇方济各曾批评特朗普政府的大规模驱逐计划。在他的教皇任期内，他还将冈多菲堡——四百年来一直是教皇的避暑官邸——向公众开放，并在这片土地上建立了一个职业培训中心。据来自芝加哥、本人也是移民美国的牧师曼努埃尔·多兰特斯介绍，该中心以移民和有需要的当地居民为服务对象。
“我认为教皇利奥想要实现教皇方济各的愿景，”多兰特斯说道，“在我们向他解释了整个愿景并与他交谈后，他对我们说：‘全力推进，曼尼神父。’”
在利奥每周前往休憩的同一处官邸内，移民和其他弱势群体每周都将接受可持续农业、园艺和烹饪方面的培训。目标是每年培训约1000人。
“这个数字听起来不大。但最终，这是一个示范模式：如果每个教会都能开展类似的活动，每个教区——我们有6000个教区，你知道的——那么我们一年就能培训大量的人，”多兰特斯说道。
https://www.cbsnews.com/video/influential-us-cardinals-american-politics-60-minutes-video-2026-04-12/
Pope Leo and President Trump are at odds over immigration in the U.S. and the Iran war
2026-04-12T19:17:24-0400 / CBS News
By Norah O’Donnell Senior Correspondent; Contributing Correspondent, 60 Minutes
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April 12, 2026 / 7:17 PM EDT / CBS News
In recent weeks, Pope Leo XIV has significantly sharpened his rebukes on the war in Iran, moving from prayers for peace to a rare condemnation, rebuking President Trump’s rhetoric.
Shortly before the ceasefire was negotiated on April 8, Mr. Trump threatened to destroy Iranian civilization. Leo called the president’s comment “truly unacceptable.” He also issued a call to action.
“Contact the authorities — political leaders, congressmen — to ask them, tell them to work for peace and to reject war always,” he said to journalists gathered at Castel Gandolfo, the papal retreat.
The Iran conflict is not a just war, according to Cardinal Robert McElroy, the archbishop of Washington.
“The Catholic faith teaches us there are certain prerequisites for a just war,” McElroy said. “You can’t go for a variety of different aims. You have to have a focused aim, which is to restore justice and restore peace. That’s it.”
Emergence of a moral voice for a ceasefire with Iran
Mr. Trump has argued that military action against Iran was needed to destroy its nuclear and ballistic missile program, among other reasons. Iran has backed several terrorist organizations for decades.
“It’s an abominable regime, and it should be removed,” McElroy said. “But this is a war of choice that we went into, and I think it’s embedded in a wider moment in the United States that’s worrying, which is this: We’re seeing before us the possibility of war after war after war.”
Leo has been a prominent voice in calling for an end to the conflict in Iran since the war began in late February.
“I am praying for peace, I hope that [a] ceasefire would be the most effective way to work together to find peace for all parties, to respect all parties and to come to a solution,” the pope told 60 Minutes last month, weeks before a ceasefire was reached last week.
Pope Leo 60 Minutes
Leo usually avoids calling out the president or any member of his administration by name. But in a Palm Sunday homily, he appeared to reference the religious language of Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth, who is Christian, but not Catholic.
The pope warned that Jesus “does not listen to the prayers of those who wage war.”
Cardinal Blase Cupich, the archbishop of Chicago, takes issue with what he calls “the gamification” of how the White House has portrayed the war on social media. He’s called videos posted of bombings in Iran “sickening.”
“We’re dehumanizing the victims of war by turning the suffering of people and the killing of children and our own soldiers into entertainment,” Cupich said.
When asked, he acknowledged that some parishioners may not want to hear politics from their priests.
“I say fine. I want to preach the gospel,” Cupich said. “God wants us to promote peace in the world because His desire is that we be one human family.”
The Catholic Church and immigration
Leo has also communicated through his actions on another Trump administration policy: mass deportations. When the United States celebrates its 250th anniversary on July 4, the first American-born pope will not spend this day in the U.S., but instead at a primary European entry point for migrants.
With his July 4 plans, Leo is sending a message that “his top priority right now is to be with those who are downcast and marginalized,” according to Cupich.
Cardinal Joseph Tobin, the archbishop of Newark, this past January, called U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement a “lawless organization.”
“I didn’t say that they were people without law,” Tobin said. “But when people act in this way, when they have to hide their identities to terrify people, when they can actually violate other guarantees of our Constitution and Bill of Rights, well, I think somebody’s got to call that out and I’m not the only one.”
Cardinal Joseph Tobin, Cardinal Robert McElroy, Cardinal Blase Cupich 60 Minutes
In November, the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops issued a rare and unified rebuke denouncing the “indiscriminate mass deportation of people.” The last time the bishops criticized the policy of a sitting president in a “special message” was 13 years ago, when they opposed an Obamacare mandate requiring employers to cover contraceptive care.
McElroy said he believes in strong borders and felt immigration was “getting out of control” under the Biden administration. But he also doesn’t agree with the Trump administration’s policy.
“This is a roundup of people throughout the country,” he said. “People who have been living good, strong lives, been here a long time, raised their children here, many of their children born here, and are citizens. That’s what our objection is.”
While Catholic leadership is defending the rights of immigrants and calling for humane treatment, the majority of the Catholic population in the U.S. voted for Mr. Trump, who campaigned on cracking down on immigration and securing the border. He won 55% of the Catholic vote, according to a Pew Research survey of validated voters.
However, Cupich, referring to mass deportations, said he thinks “it’s very clear the American people are saying, ‘We really didn’t vote for this.’”
“I think Pope Leo wants to make the dream of Pope Francis a reality”
Before his death last year, Pope Francis rebuked the Trump administration’s plans for mass deportations. During his papacy, he also helped open up Castel Gandolfo — which for 400 years has been the pope’s summer home — to the broader public, creating a job training center on the land. It’s centered around migrants and locals in need, according to the Rev. Manuel Dorantes, a priest from Chicago and immigrant to the U.S. himself.
“I think Pope Leo wants to make the dream of Pope Francis a reality,” Dorantes said. “After we explained the whole vision and talked with him, he said to us, ‘Full force ahead, Father Manny.’”
At the same estate where Leo travels to rest every week, migrants and other vulnerable individuals will train each week in sustainable farming practices, gardening and cooking. The goal is to be able to train around 1,000 people a year.
“That doesn’t sound like a big number. But ultimately, it’s a model of how if every church did something like this, every diocese — we have 6,000 of them, you know — that’s a lot of people we could train in a year,” Dorantes said.
https://www.cbsnews.com/video/influential-us-cardinals-american-politics-60-minutes-video-2026-04-12/
