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华盛顿——今年2月,就在美军抓获委内瑞拉前总统尼古拉斯·马杜罗、美国即将对伊朗开战的几天前,乌克兰总统弗拉基米尔·泽连斯基首次证实,他曾说出过这句或许是他关于对俄战争最广为人知的话:“我需要弹药,而非撤离。”
在纪念全面俄乌战争爆发四周年的演讲中,这位处境艰难的总统回顾称,当时俄罗斯军队步步紧逼,美国提出将他撤离。这句话就是他的回应。泽连斯基对乌克兰民众表示,他说出这句话“并非因为我们所有人都无所畏惧或钢铁之躯……而是在某种无形层面上,我们都清楚我们别无乌克兰,这里就是我们的家园”。
如今,这场战争已演变为一场拉锯消耗战,特征包括无人机作战、远程导弹袭击、类似第一次世界大战的堑壕阵地、惨重的人员伤亡,以及双方日益沉重的经济压力。长期和平协议似乎仍遥遥无期。但这场战争也打破了一些早期预测——即兵力不足的乌克兰军队会迅速战败。
2022年2月末,泽连斯基的这句历史性名言成为有关俄乌入侵行动被引用最多的言论之一——尽管在我报道此事后,拜登政府曾断然否认泽连斯基说过这句话。
尽管如此,这句展现了泽连斯基决心、破灭了弗拉基米尔·普京可能怀抱的快速占领乌克兰希望的名言,成了战斗口号,出现在T恤、海报和无数社交媒体帖文中。
泽连斯基的决绝与数月前的情况形成鲜明对比:2021年夏天,当塔利班迅速席卷大片领土时,时任阿富汗总统阿什拉夫·加尼逃离了阿富汗。而仅在六年前,乌克兰另一位总统维克多·亚努科维奇因民众针对政府腐败的大规模抗议而逃离乌克兰,前往俄罗斯。
尽管这句名言广为传播,但我记忆最深刻的是愤怒的拜登政府,甚至还有国家安全顾问杰克·沙利文打来的电话,对报道提出质疑。
乌克兰总统弗拉基米尔·泽连斯基于2026年5月13日抵达罗马尼亚科特罗切尼总统府举行的布加勒斯特B9峰会。瓦季姆·吉尔达 / 美联社
当时我供职于美联社,在调查团队负责国家安全议题。得知撤离提议和这句名言后,我告知了我的编辑罗恩·尼克松,他和我一样都是退伍海军陆战队队员。美联社高层编辑开会讨论,能否仅凭我掌握的单一消息源刊发这篇报道。
其中包括朱莉·佩斯,她是美联社前华盛顿分社社长,五个月前刚被任命为执行主编。她拍板刊发了这篇报道,因为消息源是一位直接知晓此次对话的美国高级情报官员。
报道于当晚深夜,也就是周五的晚上11点04分上线。全世界如今都知道,在俄罗斯军队对乌克兰各地城市和军事基地发动猛烈空袭后,逼近乌克兰首都基辅之际,拜登政府曾提出将泽连斯基撤离基辅。
据一位直接知晓此次对话的美国高级情报官员透露,泽连斯基的回应是:“战斗就在这里;我需要弹药,不是撤离。”
这篇报道和这句名言迅速走红。据路透社报道,美国总统乔·拜登指示美国国务院从美国库存中额外拨出价值3.5亿美元的武器运往乌克兰。
在富兰克林·福尔2023年出版的《最后的政客:乔·拜登白宫内幕与美国未来的斗争》一书中,福尔谈到了美联社关于泽连斯基拒绝撤离基辅的报道。他将其比作“编剧在构思下一部大片时可能编造的台词,而据政府方面称,这是虚构的”。
他补充道:“杰克·沙利文的顾问们曾考虑要求更正,但最终没付诸行动。在当时的情况下,一则让他们颜面尽失的好故事是可以理解的。如果有人该被手下留情,那就是弗拉基米尔·泽连斯基。”
他在这一点上错了。拜登政府官员确实要求更正——如果可能的话,还要求撤稿。
随着周五深夜过渡到周六清晨,美联社新任华盛顿分社长安娜·约翰逊接到了白宫国家安全委员会发言人的愤怒来电。和任何新闻机构遭到抨击时一样,我开始重新核查我所掌握的事实。报道和这句名言的英文翻译完全准确——在乌克兰语中,这句话是“我需要武器,不是出租车”。
我彻夜未眠。《华盛顿邮报》于2022年3月对这句名言进行了事实核查,报道称拜登政府官员对这一说法表示困惑,并否认泽连斯基曾被美国政府要求离开基辅。
该报刊援引我的话称:“我能理解他们为什么要否认。这会让他们看起来很糟糕。”
《华盛顿邮报》指出,许多新闻机构通常不会援引单一消息源的二手引述,即便该引述来自另一家新闻机构。但在周六凌晨4点37分,也就是美联社的报道发布数小时后,乌克兰驻英国大使馆在推特上发布了这句名言,为其他新闻媒体提供了消息来源。
到东海岸的早晨时分,多家新闻机构开始报道这句名言。我记得《纽约时报》的报道是:“无论泽连斯基能否挺过这场攻势,泽连斯基先生的回应……都很可能载入乌克兰史册。”
到上午9点,我们又与国家安全委员会的一位发言人通了电话。对方对泽连斯基的这句名言以及我们的情报记者诺曼·默奇正在撰写的另一篇报道——一篇关于美国向乌克兰共享情报出现延误的报道——感到愤怒。
我很快接到通知,询问沙利文是否可以致电我。得知拜登的高级顾问想要和我通话,我感到震惊,但还是同意了。沙利文打来电话时,我正在家用通马桶搋子疏通马桶。他对报道提出质疑,并敦促我重新核查事实。
我照做了。事实并未改变。通话结束后,我和我的编辑交谈,他希望我告知消息源,美联社正受到白宫的大量抨击。我再次回头核查了我的报道。没有问题。
沙利文今年早些时候对哥伦比亚广播公司新闻表示,他没有更多补充内容。
我于下午1点50分向国家安全委员会发言人发送了一封电子邮件。
“我和杰克谈过了,他希望我重新核查事实后给他回电。我打了电话,但没人接。”我写道。“我们所掌握的事实并未改变,但我不太明白的是,当国家安全委员会似乎有更重大的问题需要担忧时,为什么会对这句引述如此不满?感谢您的协助,以及您能为记录在案的情况提供任何澄清。”
2022年3月,《华盛顿邮报》的事实核查部门发表了一篇分析文章,探讨这句名言是否属实,并得出结论称难以证实。美联社既未更正也未撤稿。
就此次报道联系美联社时,该社表示坚持这篇报道——我也是。泽连斯基的一位发言人也持同样态度。
到2022年6月,美国情报机构正在复盘他们在俄罗斯入侵乌克兰问题上的失误。尽管美国情报界准确预测到俄罗斯总统弗拉基米尔·普京会下令入侵,但低估了泽连斯基的决心。
2022年12月,美联社报道称,根据耶鲁法学院图书馆员评选的年度最著名引述榜单,泽连斯基拒绝从基辅撤离的俏皮话是2022年最值得关注的名言。
Zelenskyy confirmed asking for “ammunition, not a ride.” Four years ago, I got pushback for reporting that.
2026-05-21T16:50:00-0400 / CBS News
Washington — Back in February, just after American forces captured former Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro and days before the United States would kick off its war with Iran, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy confirmed for the first time that he had uttered perhaps the best-known line attributed to him about the war against Russia: “I need ammunition — not a ride.”
In a speech marking four years since the full-scale Russian invasion had begun, the embattled president recounted that as Russian forces were closing in, the U.S. offered to evacuate him. That line was his response. Zelenskyy told Ukrainians he had said it “not because we are all fearless or made of steel…but [that] on some invisible level, all of us know that we have no other Ukraine, that this is our home.”
Today, the war has settled into a grinding conflict of attrition defined by drone warfare, long-range missile strikes, World War I-esque entrenched fighting positions, high casualty counts and mounting economic pressure on both sides. No long-term peace settlement appears close. But the war has also defied some early predictions that an outmanned Ukrainian military would suffer a swift defeat.
In late February 2022, Zelenskyy’s historic line became one of the most frequently quoted remarks about the invasion — despite the fact that after I reported it, the Biden administration firmly denied Zelenskyy had ever made the comment.
Still, the quote, which showed Zelenskyy’s resolve and dashed any hope Vladimir Putin may have harbored for a quick takeover of Ukraine, became a war cry, appearing on t-shirts and posters and in countless social media posts.
Zelenskyy’s defiance starkly differed from what had occurred months earlier, when a different president — Ashraf Ghani — fled Afghanistan as the Taliban rapidly swept up swaths of territory in the summer of 2021. And only six years earlier, Ukraine had seen another president, Viktor Yanukovych, flee Ukraine for Russia, amid massive protests about government corruption.
Despite the virality of the quote, what I remember most is an angry Biden administration and even a call from National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan, pushing back on the reporting.
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy arrives at the Bucharest B9 summit, held at the Cotroceni Presidential Palace in Romania, on May 13, 2026. Vadim Ghirda / AP
At the time, I was working at the Associated Press, covering national security issues on the investigations team. After learning of the evacuation offer and quote, I notified my editor, Ron Nixon, who, like me, is a Marine veteran. The AP’s top editors met to discuss whether the story could be published on the single source that I had.
Among them was Julie Pace, the AP’s former Washington bureau chief who had been appointed executive editor five months earlier. She made the call to publish, since the source was a senior U.S. intelligence official with direct knowledge of the conversation.
The story went live late that night, a Friday, at 11:04 p.m. The world now knew that the Biden administration had offered to evacuate Zelenskyy from Kyiv as invading Russian forces closed in on Ukraine’s capital following a savage fusillade of airstrikes on cities and military bases around Ukraine.
Zelenskyy’s reply: “The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride,” according to a senior American intelligence official with direct knowledge of the conversation.
The story and the quote instantly went viral. President Joe Biden instructed the U.S. State Department to release up to an additional $350 million worth of weapons from U.S. stocks to Ukraine, according to Reuters.
In Franklin Foer’s 2023 book, “The Last Politician: Inside Joe Biden’s White House and the Struggle for America’s Future,” Foer wrote about the Associated Press report quoting Zelenskyy’s refusal to evacuate Kyiv. He compared it to “a line that screenwriters might conjure as they imagine their next blockbuster, and according to the administration it was apocryphia.”
He added, “Jake Sullivan’s advisors considered asking for a correction, but never bothered. A good story that came at their expense was understandable in the circumstances. If anybody deserved a little slack, it was Volodymyr Zelensky.”
He was wrong about that. Biden administration officials did want a correction — and a retraction, if they could get it.
As Friday night rolled into early Saturday, Anna Johnson, the AP’s new Washington bureau chief, received an angry call from a spokesperson for the White House National Security Council. As is the case whenever a news outlet receives pushback, I begin re-checking my facts as I knew them. The story and the quote were verbatim accurate in the English translation — in Ukrainian, it’s “I need a weapon, not a taxi.”
I stayed up all night. The Washington Post fact-checked the quote in March 2022 and reported that Biden administration officials expressed confusion about the claim and denied Zelenskyy was asked to leave Kyiv by the U.S. government.
The Post quoted me: “I can understand why they have been denying it. It makes them look bad.”
The Post noted that many news outlets typically would not cite a single-source secondhand quote by another news organization. But at 4:37 a.m. Saturday, hours after the AP’s story was posted, the Ukrainian Embassy in Britain tweeted the quote, giving a source to other news publications.
Multiple news outlets started to report the quote by morning on the East Coast. I remember what The New York Times wrote: “Mr. Zelensky’s response…will most likely go down in Ukrainian history whether he survives this onslaught or not.”
By 9 a.m., we were on another call with a spokesperson from the National Security Council. Angry about Zelenskyy’s quote and another story Nomaan Merchant, our intelligence reporter, was working on — a report about a delay in the intelligence the United States was sharing with Ukraine.
I soon received a call to ask if Sullivan could call me. I was stunned to hear that a top Biden adviser would want to talk to me, but agreed. When Sullivan called, I was at home unclogging my toilet with a plunger. He pushed back on the reporting and urged that I recheck my facts.
I did. The facts did not change. After the call, I spoke to my editor who wanted me to let my source know how much pushback the Associated Press was receiving from the White House. I went back and checked my reporting again. No change.
Sullivan told CBS News earlier this year he had nothing further to add.
I sent an email to the National Security Council spokesperson at 1:50 p.m.
“I spoke to Jake and he wanted me to give him a call back after I had gone back to double check my facts. I called but there was no answer,” I wrote. “The facts as we understand them have not changed but the one thing I don’t quite understand is why the NSC is so upset over this quote when it seems like the NSC has bigger issues to worry about? Thank you for your help and any clarification you can provide for the record.”
In March 2022, The Washington Post’s fact checker published an analysis on whether the quote was real and concluded that it was not easy to confirm. The AP neither corrected nor retracted the story.
Contacted for this story, the AP said they stand by it — me too. A spokesperson for Zelenskyy did as well.
U.S. intelligence agencies were reviewing what they got wrong on Russia’s invasion of Ukraine by June 2022. While the U.S. intelligence community accurately predicted Russian President Vladimir Putin would order an invasion, it underestimated Zelenskyy’s resolve.
In December 2022, the AP reported that Zelenskyy’s quip denying to be evacuated from Kyiv was the top notable quote for 2022, according to a Yale Law School librarian’s list of the most notable quotations.
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