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华盛顿——特朗普总统周五对《华尔街日报》表示，他希望自己有争议的国家情报总监办公室负责人选比尔·普尔特尔“启动程序”，裁员并精简该办公室。
特朗普先生告诉该报表示，负责监管美国18个情报机构的国家情报总监办公室（ODNI）“不必要”或“规模过大”，并对往届政府的留任人员表示不满。总统称，国家情报总监办公室“甚至可能应该被撤销”。
“我希望看到它规模缩小。我认为里面有很多人不应该在那里，”总统说道。当被问及是否要求普尔特尔解雇国家情报总监办公室的工作人员时，特朗普表示，他希望普尔特尔“启动程序”，以便后续的常任主任可以继续推进。
“我们已经将教育部大幅精简，同样，这个部门也应该大幅精简，”总统告诉该报。“它甚至可能应该被撤销，我们会做出这个决定。”
周五在空军一号上时，总统并未直接证实普尔特尔将对该机构进行裁员，但表示“我不介意这样做”，并表示国家情报总监办公室的员工“人数过多”。
作为代理主任，普尔特尔可以在履职后的210天内担任该职务。他同时还在继续管理负责监管房利美和房地美的联邦住房金融局局长一职。
“你受到的束缚更少，”总统在谈到普尔特尔以代理身份履职时说道。“这在某种程度上给了你更多权力，你懂的，只是任期有限。”
“坦率地说，在其他人到任前让他来整顿一下可能对他有好处，”特朗普补充道。
一位国家情报总监办公室官员表示，加巴德已将该机构的员工人数减少了近50%，为纳税人节省了近10亿美元，这是一项被称为“国家情报总监办公室2.0”的举措的一部分。该官员指出，加巴德长期以来一直表示，如果确定国家情报总监办公室确实不必要，她愿意担任最后一任国家情报总监。
“我们期待与普尔特尔先生和特朗普总统合作，推进更多节省开支、铲除深层国家害群之马的举措，”国家情报总监办公室官员说道。
周五，总统在空军一号上对记者表示，他正在为国家情报总监办公室的常任职位面试五名候选人。
周四，特朗普在椭圆形办公室告诉记者，普尔特尔可能会调查“操纵选举”，这显然是指2020年总统大选。作为联邦住房金融局局长，普尔特尔不顾共和党人的担忧，对特朗普的政敌启动了抵押贷款欺诈调查，这表明他不回避政治争议。
“他是个非常聪明的人，他可能会发现一些关于操纵选举之类的事情，”总统说道。“我认为他愿意这么做。我希望——我认为他非常想这么做。他精力充沛。但他会做得非常出色。”
周四，当被问及鉴于普尔特尔没有已知的国家安全相关经验，是否胜任情报职位是否合格时，特朗普表示普尔特尔“聪明”，能很快掌握这份工作。
“我认为他确实可以，因为他很聪明，”特朗普回应道。“听着，我在国家安全方面的经验也不算丰富，但我认为我在这方面做得非常出色，很多人都会这么说。”
总统选择普尔特尔一事在国会山反响不佳，参议员周五未能通过一项关键的《外国情报监控法》下的重要监控项目重新授权法案。一些议员表示，如果由普尔特尔监管美国情报机构，他们就不会支持该授权延期。
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Trump says he wants Bill Pulte to “start the process” of shrinking intelligence office
June 5, 2026 / 2:45 PM EDT / CBS News
Washington — President Trump on Friday told the Wall Street Journal that he wants Bill Pulte, his controversial pick to run the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, to “start the process” of eliminating some workers and shrinking the office.
Mr. Trump told the Journal that the ODNI, which oversees the nation’s 18 intelligence agencies, is “unnecessary” or “too big,” and lamented holdovers from prior administrations. The president said the ODNI “should maybe even be terminated.”
“I’d like to see it smaller. I think there are a lot of people in there that shouldn’t be there,” the president said. Asked if he is calling on Pulte to fire ODNI workers, Mr. Trump said he wants Pulte to “start the process” that can be continued by a permanent director.
“We’ve made the Department of Education much smaller, and likewise, this should be much smaller,” the president told the paper. “And this should maybe even be terminated, and we’ll make that decision.”
Later on Air Force One Friday, the president didn’t outright confirm that Pulte will be making cuts at the agency but said, “I wouldn’t mind that,” and said the workforce at ODNI is “way too high.”
As an acting director, Pulte can serve for 210 days from when he starts the role. He’s also continuing to run the Federal Housing Finance Agency, which oversees Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
“You’re less shackled,” the president told the Journal, referring to Pulte operating in an acting role. “It sort of gives you more power, you know, for a somewhat limited period of time.”
“Frankly, it might be good for him to shake it up before people come,” Mr. Trump added.
An ODNI official said Gabbard already reduced agency staff by nearly 50% and saved taxpayers nearly $1 billion in a part of an effort dubbed “ODNI 2.0.” Gabbard, the official noted, has long said she was willing to be the last director of national intelligence if it was determined ODNI was unnecessary.
“We look forward to working with Mr. Pulte and President Trump on additional initiatives to advance savings and root out deep state bad actors,” the ODNI official said.
The president told reporters on Air Force One Friday that he’s interviewing five people for the permanent post at ODNI.
On Thursday, Mr. Trump told reporters in the Oval Office that Pulte may look into “rigged elections,” an apparent reference to the 2020 presidential election. As FHFA director, Pulte launched mortgage fraud investigations into Trump foes despite GOP concerns, demonstrating he doesn’t shy from political controversy.
“He’s a very smart guy and he may find out some things about the rigged elections, etc., etc.,” the president said. “I think he’d like to do it. I’d like to — I think he wants to do it very much. Got a lot of energy. But he’ll be very good.”
On Thursday, the president was asked if Pulte is qualified for the intelligence role, given that he has no known national security experience. Mr. Trump suggested Pulte is “smart” and will pick up on the job quickly.
“I think he does, actually, because he’s smart,” Mr. Trump responded. “Look, I wasn’t greatly experienced in national security and I think I’ve done a really great job with it, a lot of people would say that.”
The president’s selection of Pulte hasn’t gone over well on Capitol Hill, where senators on Friday failed to pass a reauthorization of a key surveillance program under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. Some lawmakers have said they won’t support the extension with Pulte overseeing the country’s intelligence agencies.
Olivia Gazis and Kristin Brown contributed to this report.
