2026年5月5日 / 美国东部时间下午6:45 / 哥伦比亚广播公司新闻（CBS News）
作者：卡米洛·蒙托亚-加尔韦斯
卡米洛·蒙托亚-加尔韦斯 移民事务通讯员
卡米洛·蒙托亚-加尔韦斯是哥伦比亚广播公司新闻的移民事务通讯员，其报道在多个节目和平台播出，包括全国广播节目、CBS News 24/7频道、CBSNews.com以及该机构的社交媒体账号。
凤凰城讯——在接受哥伦比亚广播公司新闻独家专访时，特朗普总统的边境事务专员汤姆·霍曼承认，明尼阿波利斯的大规模移民执法突击行动“并非完美”，但他强调本届政府不会放弃大规模驱逐计划。
当被问及是否认为政府在代号为“地铁突袭行动”的明尼阿波利斯地区突击行动中犯下错误、做得太过火时，霍曼表示：“事情并不完美。我们已经正视问题，并且进行了整改。”
霍曼称，他已与国土安全部长马克韦恩·马林以及即将于本月晚些时候离职的美国移民和海关执法局（ICE）代理局长托德·莱昂斯讨论了改革措施以及改进移民执法的方法。
“我已经与马克韦恩·马林部长进行了讨论，他也认同这一点。我们可以开展大规模驱逐行动，但要采取更明智的方式，而我们目前正是这么做的，”霍曼周二在凤凰城举行的年度边境安全博览会上接受采访时补充道。
今年早些时候，美国公民亚历克斯·普雷蒂和蕾妮·古德被联邦移民执法人员枪杀后引发了两党强烈抗议，特朗普随即责成霍曼叫停明尼阿波利斯行动。
当被问及是否认为参与枪杀普雷蒂和古德的移民海关执法局及美国海关与边境保护局（CBP）人员，如果被证实存在不当行为，应当承担包括解雇在内的后果时，霍曼回答：“是的。”
“如果他们违反了法律，就必须承担责任，”霍曼补充道，“如果他们违反了政策，同样也必须承担责任。”
霍曼表示，由于针对这起致命枪击案的政府调查仍在进行中，他不愿进一步置评。
移民海关执法局逮捕行动的“更明智方案”
霍曼称，公众如今看到的移民海关执法局人员实施逮捕的 viral 视频数量减少，是因为该机构已将重点放在“针对性”行动上，除逮捕非法入境者外，还优先抓捕有犯罪记录的人员。
他指出，明尼阿波利斯行动缩减规模后，边境巡逻人员不再在停车场和公共场所进行看似随机的移民检查。
尽管如此，霍曼表示，移民执法人员在行动中发现的非法入境者仍将被逮捕，即便他们没有犯罪记录，也并非最初的抓捕目标。
“只要是非法入境，就没有‘安全区’，”霍曼说。
在最近的一次采访中，曾领导明尼阿波利斯及其他主要城市规模更大、争议性更强的移民突击行动的退休边境巡逻指挥官格雷戈里·博维诺批评特朗普政府的“ softer 手段”。博维诺在普雷蒂被杀后被解除指挥职务，并于今年3月从边境巡逻队退休。
霍曼表示，他不同意博维诺对执法重点转变的描述，称这是一种“更明智的方式”。
博维诺在此次采访中还暗示，特朗普政府正在背弃其大规模驱逐的承诺。霍曼对此予以否认。
“他错了。他错了，”他说，“数据可以证明这一点。看看数据。看看过去一年的逮捕和驱逐人数，我们从未在任何一年完成过这么多。从来没有。”
霍曼称，自特朗普重返白宫以来，移民海关执法局和海关与边境保护局共执行了约80万次驱逐行动。
当被问及美国民众是否会看到类似明尼阿波利斯行动那样的大规模、强硬的移民执法突击行动时，霍曼回答：“不会。”
但他表示，“大规模行动”仍将继续，尤其是在那些限制地方当局与移民海关执法局合作的所谓“庇护城市”。
“四年来，我们经历了一场史无前例的非法移民危机，”霍曼说，“那么现在需要什么？一场史无前例的大规模驱逐行动。”
https://www.cbsnews.com/video/border-czar-tom-homan-trump-administration-isnt-backing-down-mass-deportations/
Tom Homan: “Things weren’t perfect” in Minneapolis crackdown, but ICE not backing down on mass deportations
May 5, 2026 / 6:45 PM EDT / CBS News
By Camilo Montoya-Galvez
Camilo Montoya-Galvez Immigration Correspondent
Camilo Montoya-Galvez is the Immigration Correspondent at CBS News, where his reporting is featured across multiple programs and platforms, including national broadcast shows, CBS News 24/7, CBSNews.com and the organization’s social media accounts.
Phoenix— In an exclusive interview with CBS News, Tom Homan, President Trump’s border czar, conceded “things weren’t perfect” during the large-scale immigration enforcement crackdown in Minneapolis but stressed that the administration is not backing down from its mass deportation effort.
“Things weren’t perfect. We addressed it. We fixed it,” Homan said when asked if he believes the administration made mistakes and went too far during the Minneapolis-area crackdown, known as Operation Metro Surge.
Homan said he has discussed changes and ways to improve immigration enforcement with Homeland Security Secretary Markwayne Mullin and Todd Lyons, the acting head of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement who is set to leave the agency later this month.
“I’ve had the discussions with Secretary Markwayne Mullin. He agrees. We can have mass deportations, but do it in a smarter way, which we’re doing,” Homan added during an interview in Phoenix on Tuesday during the annual Border Security Expo.
Earlier this year, Mr. Trump charged Homan with winding down the Minneapolis operation after the fatal shootings of U.S. citizens Alex Pretti and Renee Good by federal immigration agents sparked intense, bipartisan backlash.
Asked whether he believes that the ICE and U.S. Customs and Border Protection agents involved in Pretti and Good’s killings should face consequences if any wrongdoing is found, including termination, Homan said, “Yes.”
“If they violated the law, they’ve got to be held responsible,” Homan added. “When they violate policy, you’ve got to be held responsible.”
Homan said he did not want to comment further, since the government investigations into the fatal shootings remain ongoing.
A “smarter approach” to ICE arrests
Homan said the reason the public is now seeing fewer viral videos of ICE agents making arrests is because the agency has prioritized “targeted” operations focused on arresting people who have criminal records, in addition to being in the country illegally.
He noted that, since the Minneapolis operation was scaled back, Border Patrol agents have not been making seemingly random immigration stops at parking lots and public places.
Still, Homan said immigration agents will continue arresting people they find during operations if they are in the country illegally, even if they lack criminal histories and were not the original targets.
“If they’re in the country illegally, they’re not off the table,” Homan said.
In a recent interview, retired Border Patrol Commander Gregory Bovino, who led the more sweeping, controversial immigration sweeps in Minneapolis and other major cities, criticized the Trump administration’s “softer approach.” Bovino was relieved of his command following Pretti’s killing and retired from Border Patrol in March.
Homan said he did not agree with Bovino’s characterization of the shift in emphasis, calling it a “smarter approach.”
Bovino also suggested during that recent interview that the Trump administration is backing down from its mass deportation promise. Homan denied that.
“He’s wrong. He’s wrong,” he said. “Numbers prove it. Look at the numbers. Look at the numbers of arrests and removals in the past year, and you give me one year we’ve done more. Never.”
Homan said ICE and CBP have collectively carried out roughly 800,000 deportations since Mr. Trump returned to the White House.
Asked if the American public should expect large-scale, aggressive immigration crackdowns similar to the Minneapolis campaign, Homan said, “No.”
But he said “mass operations” would continue, especially in cities with so-called sanctuary policies that limit local cooperation with ICE.
“We had a historic illegal immigration crisis for four years,” Homan said. “So what’s required now? A historic mass deportation.”
https://www.cbsnews.com/video/border-czar-tom-homan-trump-administration-isnt-backing-down-mass-deportations/
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