2026年7月12日 美国东部时间早上6:00 / 福克斯新闻
“摧毁美国的不会是外来势力，而是我们内部的所作所为”
——大卫·安斯沃思 福克斯新闻
数十年来，史蒂夫·福布斯一直是美国资本主义制度、自由市场和稳健货币政策的大胆倡导者。作为《福布斯》杂志董事长兼总编辑，且曾在1996年和2000年参选总统，他一直是美国最具影响力的经济议题发声人之一。
近日，福布斯在拉斯维加斯自由节期间接受了福克斯新闻数字频道的采访，谈及美国经济现状、纽约市的“社会主义转向”以及特朗普政府的政策。
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“首先，纽约市过去曾有选举激进候选人的名声，包括1940年代末据称是国会仅有的共产党议员。因此这种倾向确实存在。但更重要的是，我认为这表明许多人感到不满。”
这位78岁的出版帝国继承人表示，左翼比热爱自由的对手更有组织性。
“我们必须把信息传递出去，”他说，“左翼学到的一点是，他们试图占据道德高地。即便你在社会主义、共产主义制度下毁掉了人们的生活，害死了数百万人，你的初衷也是好的。
“因此他们试图打道德牌。而仅仅说‘自由企业能带来更多繁荣’是不够的。你还必须阐明，自由企业是符合道德的。它基于自由，基于允许人类发挥创造力，或者用林肯的话来说，改善自己的生活境遇。”
在特朗普发表拉什莫尔山演讲并提及共产主义构成内部威胁后，福布斯对此表示赞同，并援引了另一位美国总统的话。
“无论你称之为共产主义、社会主义、极左翼主义还是反犹主义，本质上都是同一种顽疾，”福布斯说，“亚伯拉罕·林肯在19世纪说得非常清楚：‘摧毁美国的不会是外来势力，而是我们内部的所作所为。’”
亚伯拉罕·林肯（1809-1865），美国第十六任总统，在1861-1865年美国内战期间任职。他最伟大的举措是1863年颁布《解放黑人奴隶宣言》，废除奴隶制。内战结束后不久，他于1865年4月14日被演员约翰·威尔克斯·布斯刺杀。（© CORBIS/Corbis via Getty Images 摄）
福布斯指出，许多人错误地将问题归咎于自由市场，而实际上应归咎于政府政策：
“实际情况是，当政府犯错、做出人们不喜欢的事，损害了人们改善生活的前景，扰乱社会秩序时，他们会将其归咎于资本主义，归咎于自由市场，”他说，“于是他们协助破坏自由市场，随后却宣称‘受害者才是问题的根源’。”
福布斯表示，只有在自由的环境中，繁荣与创新才能蓬勃发展。尽管资本主义并非完美，但它带来了改善我们生活的诸多发明。
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“以你的手持设备为例，”他说，“如果30年前你说奶奶能操作一台超级计算机，别人会用看怪物的眼神看你。如今我们却对此习以为常。第一台手持设备诞生仅40年前，售价3995美元，重得像块砖头，大小如同鞋盒。而今天，我们拥有的手持设备实际上就是超级计算机，随时随地能做任何事。而且按实际价值计算，它们越来越便宜。这就是人类创造力的奇迹。而最令人惊讶的是，我们对此早已习以为常。”
长期以来，福布斯一直倡导稳健货币政策，且是美联储的著名批评者：
美联储负责制定国家货币政策，并影响整个经济领域的借贷成本。（安娜贝尔·戈登 / AFP via Getty Images 摄）
“先说说美联储，他们认为繁荣会引发通胀。但经验一次又一次证明，这完全是无稽之谈。当经济表现向好时，你会听到央行的窃窃私语：‘经济是否过热了？’仿佛经济是一台机器。”福布斯说。
“扪心自问，当你的收入增加时，你会觉得自己‘过热’吗？会因此夜间盗汗吗？你会说‘把钱拿走吧，我过热了’吗？不会，这太荒谬了，”他说。
福布斯认为，美联储的职责是维护美元的信誉，而非试图通过操纵利率来管理经济活动。
“然而大多数自由市场倡导者都明白，租金管制会扭曲市场，最终推高成本、让民众得到的更少，”福布斯指出，“那么控制利率又是什么？这也是一种租金管制。过去人们曾将利息称为租金，你是在租用资金。”
他对特朗普政府的建议很简单：
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“在国内事务方面，推动新一轮减税。降低个人和企业税率，”福布斯说，“税收就是一种代价。所以提出这项政策吧。国会可能不会通过，但你有了一个可以向选民宣传的议题。”
福布斯补充道，通过巧妙的营销，可以向公众推销这类计划。
“拿出那些从[不对加班征税、不对小费征税]政策中获益颇丰的人的例子，告诉大家，还记得那些深夜电视购物广告里推销员说的‘等等，还有更多优惠’吗？他们可以说，‘等等，还有更多优惠。我们将大幅减税，人人都将受益。’
“继续推进放松管制，”他总结道，“沿着这条路走下去，好事自然会发生。”
大卫·安斯沃思报道拉美事务。你可以在推特@LatinAmerUpdate关注大卫·安斯沃思。
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Steve Forbes backs Trump’s Mt. Rushmore warning on communism: ‘He’s right’
July 12, 2026 6:00am EDT / Fox News
‘It won’t be foreign forces that destroy the United States. It’ll be things we do internally’
By David Unsworth Fox News
Steve Forbes has been a bold advocate for the American capitalist system, free markets and sound money for decades. As the chairman and editor-in-chief of Forbes, and a presidential candidate in 1996 and 2000, he has been one of the nation’s leading voices on economics.
Recently, Forbes sat down with Fox News Digital at Freedom Fest in Las Vegas to discuss the state of the American economy, New York City’s socialist turn, and the policies of the Trump administration.
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“First of all, New York City has had a reputation in the past of electing radical candidates, including the allegedly only communist member of Congress back in the late 1940s. So there is that streak there. But more importantly, I think it shows that people, a lot of people, are dissatisfied.
The 78-year-old scion of a publishing empire said the left is better organized than it’s freedom-loving counterparts.
“We’ve got to get the message out,” he said. “And one thing that the left has learned is that you try to occupy the high moral ground. Even if you wreck people’s lives, kill millions of people under socialism, communism, your intentions were good.
“So they try to play the moral card. And so it’s not enough to say, ‘Well, free enterprise gives you more prosperity.’ You also have to put on the plane that free enterprise is moral. It’s based on liberty, based on allowing human beings to be creative, or as Lincoln put it, improve your lot in life.”
Following Trump’s Mount Rushmore speech and its depiction of the internal threat of communism, Forbes agrees, citing another U.S. president.
“Whatever you call it, communism, socialism, extreme leftism, anti-Semitism, it’s all the same disease,” Forbes said. “Abraham Lincoln put it very well in the 1800s. He said, ‘It won’t be foreign forces that destroy the United States. It’ll be things we do internally.’”
Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865), the sixteenth president of the United States, was president during the American Civil War of 1861-1865. His greatest act was issuing the Emancipation Proclamation, abolishing slavery, in 1863. He was assassinated just after the war on April 14, 1865, by actor John Wilkes Booth. (Photo by © CORBIS/Corbis via Getty Images)
Forbes suggested that many incorrectly blame problems on free markets, when they should instead be blaming government policies:
“What happens is when governments start making mistakes and doing things that people don’t like and that hurt people’s prospects for getting ahead, upsetting society, they blame it on capitalism. They blame it on free markets,” he said. “So they help wreck free markets and then say, ‘The victim is the cause of it.’”
Prosperity and innovation can only flourish with freedom, Forbes said. While capitalism isn’t perfect, it has led to inventions that improve our lives, according to Forbes.
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“Take your handheld,” he said. “If you’d said 30 years ago [that your] grandma could operate a supercomputer, you’d have gotten a rather strange look. Now we take it for granted. The first one was just 40 years ago, cost $3,995, weighed like a brick, the size of a shoebox. And today we have handhelds that are really supercomputers that can do anything anywhere. And in real terms, they get cheaper and cheaper. So that’s the miracle of human creativity. And then the amazing thing is we take it for granted.”
Forbes has long been an advocate for sound money, and a prominent critic of the Federal Reserve:
The Federal Reserve sets the nation’s monetary policy and influences borrowing costs across the economy.(Annabelle GORDON / AFP via Getty Images)
“Start with the Federal Reserve, the idea that prosperity causes inflation. Experience shows time and time again, it’s absolute nonsense. So if the economy starts to do well, you hear mutterings from the central bank asking, ‘Is the economy overheating?’ as if the economy is a machine,” Forbes said.
“So ask yourself, if your income is improving, do you start to feel overheating? Do you start to sweat at night? You know, ‘Take it away because I’m overheating?’ No, it’s preposterous,” he said.
The central bank’s role is to preserve the integrity of the dollar, not to manage economic activity by trying to manipulate interest rates, according to Forbes.
“And yet most free marketeers, for example, realize rent control distorts markets and ends up costing more and giving people less,” Forbes noted. “Well, what is controlling interest rates? It’s a form of rent control. They used to call interest rent. You’d rent the money.”
His prescription for the Trump administration is simple:
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“On the domestic front, go for a new round of tax cuts. Reduce tax rates for individuals and for businesses,” Forbes said. “Taxes are a price. So, propose it. Congress may not pass it, but you’ve got an issue you can take to the voters.
New York City Mayor Zohran Mamdani speaks to reporters during a news conference in New York, Tuesday, Feb. 17, 2026.(AP Photo/Seth Wenig)
Selling such a plan to the public could be done with some savvy marketing, Forbes added.
“Bring out examples of people who have benefited enormously from [not taxing overtime, not taxing tips], and saying, remember those old late night TV commercials [where hawkers would say] ‘But wait, there’s more?’ They can say, ‘But wait, there’s more. We’re going to have big tax cuts. Everyone’s going to benefit.’
“And continue with the deregulation,” he concluded. “You go on that path, and good things will happen.”
David Unsworth reports on Latin America. You can follow David Unsworth on Twitter @LatinAmerUpdate
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