2026-07-09T09:00:25.619Z / 美国有线电视新闻网（CNN）
杰弗里·爱泼斯坦的长期助理莱斯利·格罗夫上个月对国会议员表示，她从未见过任何为杰弗里·爱泼斯坦提供按摩服务的女孩和年轻女性，也对她们的背景一无所知——包括她们的年龄。
一些爱泼斯坦幸存者表示，格罗夫并没有说出真相。
在接受CNN采访时，多名爱泼斯坦受害者——包括四名实名发声的女性和两名匿名分享经历的女性——对格罗夫近期向议员作证的多个内容提出质疑。她们描述了与格罗夫当面会面的经历，与格罗夫讨论过自己的年龄，还直接接受过这位任职爱泼斯坦助手长达18年的助理的付款——所有这些都与格罗夫对议员的说法相悖。
这些细节是格罗夫6月9日接受众议院监督委员会长达数小时的书面证词的一部分，证词内容涉及她为爱泼斯坦工作的经历。她对该委员会成员表示，自己从未知晓爱泼斯坦对女孩和女性的虐待行为，自己被爱泼斯坦的操纵手段欺骗了。该委员会今年一直在质询这位已定罪性犯罪者身边的一系列关联人员。
尽管格罗夫作为爱泼斯坦的潜在同谋被列入2008年佛罗里达州联邦检察官与爱泼斯坦达成的备受争议的不起诉协议名单中，但她从未面临任何刑事指控。
格罗夫的律师没有回应CNN就此事提出的置评请求。
众议院监督委员会的一位发言人告诉CNN，该委员会“目前正在对照现有证据审查格罗夫女士的证词记录”。她补充道：“我们欢迎任何掌握相关信息的个人提供额外证据。”
“莱斯利·格罗夫清楚爱泼斯坦核心圈子里发生的事情，这就是为什么科默主席本应要求她宣誓作证，”众议院监督委员会最高级别民主党议员、众议员罗伯特·加西亚的通讯主管萨拉·格雷罗在一份声明中表示。“向国会撒谎是犯罪行为，任何有此行为的人都应被追究责任，仅此而已。”
格罗夫的证词进一步加剧了爱泼斯坦幸存者的挫败感，其中许多人担心国会对爱泼斯坦关联人员的访谈不会带来更多问责。爱泼斯坦的同谋吉斯莱恩·麦克斯韦是美国境内唯一因爱泼斯坦案件被起诉的人，尽管司法部公布了数百万份爱泼斯坦相关文件，但该部门表示没有足够证据提起其他指控。
“有这么多人进来撒谎，说他们不知道、不记得，”爱泼斯坦幸存者玛丽娜·拉塞达说道。“我们能不能至少有一个人站出来承担责任，带来完全的透明度？”
格罗夫对众议院监督委员会成员表示，爱泼斯坦是一个“操控大师和骗子”，他将自己的虐待行为对她隐瞒，并称：“18年来，我为杰基尔博士工作，却从未被允许窥见真实的海德先生。”
根据联邦法律，“明知且故意”向国会提供“实质性”虚假陈述属于犯罪行为。CNN采访的爱泼斯坦幸存者表示，她们无法为部分关于与格罗夫互动的主张提供佐证——其中一些互动发生在二十多年前，当时许多受害者还是青少年，智能手机也尚未普及。
以下是爱泼斯坦幸存者对格罗夫证词中部分主张的回应：
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格罗夫多次对议员表示，她从未见过任何由她安排为爱泼斯坦提供按摩服务的女孩和女性。“据我所知，我从未见过这些按摩师，”她说道。
CNN采访的所有六名爱泼斯坦幸存者都表示，她们曾当面见过格罗夫，得知格罗夫否认曾见过这些女孩和年轻女性后，她们都感到非常震惊。
拉塞达称自己2002年首次见到爱泼斯坦时还差几个月就满14岁，她说在遭受虐待的几年里经常见到格罗夫。“她在撒谎，”她说道，并补充道：“光是我和我的朋友们，她就至少见过三四个人。”
沙琳·罗查德表示，她第一次见到爱泼斯坦时是在纽约市做年轻模特，她说自己“在不同地点多次见过格罗夫”。
劳拉·布卢姆·麦吉称，她以 aspiring model（有抱负的模特）身份结识爱泼斯坦，并在2001年至2003年间遭受虐待，她说自己记得至少两次在爱泼斯坦的联排别墅里见过格罗夫；而丽莎·菲利普斯表示，她第一次见到爱泼斯坦时刚二十出头，她告诉CNN：“我当然见过她本人。”
另一位匿名接受CNN采访的女性表示，她第一次见到爱泼斯坦时大约14岁。她说自己多次在爱泼斯坦位于纽约市的联排别墅里见过格罗夫，至今仍能清楚地记得她们主要的互动地点。
“走进他的房子，进门后玄关正左侧，他有一个小型会客区办公室，她总是在那里，”她说道。“你坐在那里等候的时候，她有时会过来打招呼——椅子基本都是对着她的，所以我总会先开口搭话。”
第二位匿名发声的爱泼斯坦受害者表示，她2001年首次见到爱泼斯坦时年仅20岁，同样称自己多次见过格罗夫，包括在爱泼斯坦位于纽约市的办公室里。
格罗夫多次对议员表示，她从未询问过或知晓前来见爱泼斯坦的女孩和年轻女性的年龄，包括其中部分人是未成年人的事实。她还表示，自己从未知晓有些人是从当地高中过来的。
多名爱泼斯坦幸存者强烈反驳了格罗夫声称自己从未知晓女孩们年龄的说法。
拉塞达说，格罗夫经常详细询问她计划带给爱泼斯坦的新女孩的情况，而且格罗夫对爱泼斯坦偏好年轻女孩的品味非常敏感——以至于她开始要求拉塞达告诉朋友们，在与爱泼斯坦见面时带上学生证。
“她会在电话里问，‘这个女孩长什么样？她来自哪里？多大了？’”拉塞达说道。
罗查德表示，格罗夫不可能不知道她的年龄，因为她需要罗查德的护照信息来安排出行。“她当然知道我们多大了，因为她必须查看我们的身份证件才能预订机票，”罗查德说道。
第二位匿名接受CNN采访的女性也附和了罗查德的说法，称格罗夫曾帮她申请第一本护照，以便她能出国旅行。她说自己去过爱泼斯坦位于纽约市的办公室，向格罗夫提供申请所需的信息：“我和她坐在一起，她亲自录入了我的所有信息。她显然知道我的年龄。”
然而，当议员特别询问格罗夫是否曾处理或查看过女孩们的护照时，她回答：“没有。”她后来又表示，自己“可能见过护照——护照的照片，但我从未接触过她们的护照，也没做过任何相关处理”。
第一位匿名女性也表示，她“百分之百”确信格罗夫知道自己是未成年人。“我上的是私立天主教学校，她总是让我早点离校，”她说。爱泼斯坦喜欢看她穿校服的样子，她说有很多次格罗夫都看到她穿着校服。
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格罗夫多次对议员表示，她从未代表爱泼斯坦给任何人付钱。她表示，自己有时只会参与安排取钱送货的事宜。
多名爱泼斯坦幸存者表示，从格罗夫那里收钱是她们在爱泼斯坦那里经历的常态。拉塞达说，尤其是当爱泼斯坦不在城里时，通常都是格罗夫给她现金。
“她会把钱装在长长的白色信封里，现金全是百元面值的。从来没有二十元、五元或者十元的——就像是刚从银行取出来的，”她说。拉塞达说，付款地点是爱泼斯坦位于纽约市的办公室的楼梯上，格罗夫“会把信封递过来，我们就离开。我们都知道，不能在那里待太久，因为我们都清楚自己年纪还小，不属于那里”。
第一位匿名女性也表示，她经常从格罗夫那里收到装在信封里的钱。“我们每隔一天就去莱斯利那里拿钱。甚至不只是为了按摩——就是单纯给钱。我们没有钱，除非我们带女孩过来，”她说。
菲利普斯告诉CNN，格罗夫声称自己从未给女孩们钱是“不可能的”，她解释说，自己曾去爱泼斯坦的办公室从格罗夫那里领取用于支付学费的支票。
格罗夫对议员表示，2001年到2013年左右，她“从未踏足”爱泼斯坦位于纽约市的联排别墅。
第一位匿名女性表示，自己从21世纪初开始遭受爱泼斯坦的虐待，她说自己多次在爱泼斯坦的联排别墅里见过格罗夫。“她是在开玩笑吗？除非我产生了幻觉，而且她还有个双胞胎姐妹，”她说。
布卢姆·麦吉表示，自己在21世纪初遭受爱泼斯坦的虐待，她说自己至少两次当面见过格罗夫，而且都是在爱泼斯坦的联排别墅里。
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格罗夫对议员表示，她从未给任何按摩师提供过百老汇演出门票。
拉塞达和第一位匿名女性都表示，她们多次前往爱泼斯坦位于纽约市的办公室，从格罗夫那里领取百老汇演出门票。“她会在楼梯口和我们见面，总是递给我们一个白色信封，”拉塞达说道。
她说自己有一次看完《歌剧魅影》中途离场，因为她并不喜欢这部剧。
Exclusive: Epstein survivors say his former assistant Lesley Groff lied to Congress about key details
2026-07-09T09:00:25.619Z / CNN
Lesley Groff, Jeffrey Epstein’s longtime assistant, told members of Congress last month that she never met any of the girls and young women who provided massages to Epstein and that she didn’t know anything about their backgrounds – including how old they were.
Some Epstein survivors say that Groff was not telling the truth.
In interviews with CNN, multiple Epstein victims, including four women who spoke on record and two who shared their accounts anonymously, took issue with various aspects of Groff’s recent testimony to lawmakers. They described meeting Groff in person, discussing with Groff how old they were and being directly paid by Epstein’s assistant of 18 years — all contrary to what Groff told lawmakers.
Those details were part of Groff’s hourslong, transcribed June 9 interview with the House Oversight Committee about her experience working for Epstein. She told members of the panel – which has been questioning a series of people in the convicted sex offender’s orbit this year – that she never knew about Epstein’s abuse of girls and women and that she was duped by his manipulation.
While Groff was listed as a potential co-conspirator to Epstein as part of the controversial non-prosecution agreement struck with federal prosecutors in Florida in 2008, she has never been charged with a crime.
Groff’s lawyer did not respond to CNN’s request for comment for this story.
A spokeswoman for the House Oversight Committee told CNN that the committee is “currently reviewing Ms. Groff’s transcript against the available evidence.” She added: “We welcome any additional evidence from individuals who possess information.”
“Lesley Groff knew what was happening in Epstein’s inner circle, which is why Chairman Comer should have required her to testify under oath,” Sara Guerrero, communications director for the oversight committee’s top Democrat, Rep. Robert Garcia, said in a statement. “Lying to Congress is a crime, and anyone who does it should be held accountable, full stop.”
Groff’s testimony has only fueled the frustration of Epstein survivors, many of whom are concerned that Congress’ interviews with Epstein associates will not lead to more accountability. Epstein co-conspirator Ghislaine Maxwell is the only person who has been prosecuted in the US in relation to Epstein, and the Justice Department has said there has been insufficient evidence to pursue other charges – even after it released millions of Epstein files.
“We have so many people coming in and lying and saying they don’t know, they don’t remember,” said Epstein survivor Marina Lacerda. “Can we just have one person at least come in and take accountability and bring in full transparency?”
Groff told members of the House Oversight Committee that Epstein had been a “master manipulator and deceiver” who had kept his abuse a secret from her, saying: “For 18 years, I worked for Dr. Jekyll but was never permitted to see the true Mr. Hyde.”
It is a crime under federal law to “knowingly and willfully” give “materially” false statements to Congress. The Epstein survivors CNN spoke with said it was not possible to produce corroboration for some of their claims about their interactions with Groff, which for some, took place more than two decades ago when many of the victims were teenagers and before the proliferation of smart phones.
Here is what Epstein survivors said in response to some of the claims Groff made in her interview:
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Epstein Survivor Marina Lacerda discusses Lesley Groff’s appearance before the House Oversight Committee
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Groff repeatedly told lawmakers that she never met any of the girls and women whom she arranged to give massages to Epstein. “To my knowledge I never met any of these masseuses,” she said.
All six Epstein survivors CNN spoke with said they met Groff in person and were dismayed to learn of Groff’s denial about ever meeting the girls and young women.
Lacerda, who says she first met Epstein in 2002 when she was just shy of turning 14, said she saw Groff regularly during her years of abuse. “She’s lying,” she said, adding: “Just me and my friends, she’s met at least three or four of us.”
Sharlene Rochard, who says she was a young model working in New York City when she first met Epstein, said she met Groff “multiple times in different locations.”
Lara Blume McGee, who says she met Epstein as an aspiring model and was abused from 2001 to 2003, said she remembers meeting Groff at least twice at Epstein’s townhouse, while Lisa Phillips, who says she was in her early 20s when she first met Epstein, told CNN: “Of course I’ve met her in person.”
One woman who spoke to CNN anonymously says she was around 14 when she first met Epstein. She said she met Groff numerous times at Epstein’s New York City townhouse and that she could still clearly picture where their interactions primarily took place.
“When you walked in his house, right to the left of the foyer when you come in, he had his little seating area office that she was always in,” she said. “She would greet you sometimes while you would sit there and wait — like basically the chairs are facing her — so I would always start conversation.”
A second Epstein victim who spoke anonymously says she first met Epstein in 2001 when she was 20 years old. She similarly said she met Groff multiple times, including at Epstein’s office in New York City.
Groff repeatedly told lawmakers that she never asked for or knew the ages of the girls and young women who came to see Epstein, including the fact that some of them were minors. She also said she was never aware that some were coming from local high schools.
Multiple Epstein survivors vehemently pushed back on Groff’s claim that she never knew any of the girls’ ages.
Lacerda said Groff regularly asked her detailed questions about new girls that Lacerda planned to bring to Epstein, and that Groff was sensitive to Epstein’s preference for younger girls – so much so that she started asking Lacerda to tell her friends to bring their school IDs to their sessions with Epstein.
“She would ask, ‘What does the girl look like? Where is she from? How old is she?’ over the phone,” Lacerda said.
Rochard said it was not possible that Groff didn’t know her age, because she had Rochard’s passport information to plan travel. “Of course she knew how old we were because she had to look at our IDs to book our flight,” Rochard said.
The second woman who spoke with CNN anonymously echoed Rochard, saying Groff had helped her apply for her first passport so that she could travel abroad. She visited Epstein’s office in New York City to give Groff the necessary information for the application, she said: “I sat with her and she took all my information in person. She obviously knew my age.”
However, when Groff was specifically asked by a lawmaker if she ever handled or viewed any of the girls’ passports, she responded: “No.” She later said she “may have seen a passport – a picture of a passport, but I never had anything to do with their passports.”
The first anonymous woman said she was also “100 percent” certain Groff knew that she was a minor. “I went to a private Catholic school and she would always ask me to leave school early,” she said. Epstein liked to see her in her school uniform, and that she said there were many times when Groff saw her wearing her uniform.
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Epstein Survivor Sharlene Rochard discusses Lesley Groff’s appearance before the House Oversight Committee
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Groff repeatedly told lawmakers that she never gave money to anyone on Epstein’s behalf. She said she was only involved in sometimes arranging for money to be picked up to be delivered.
Multiple Epstein survivors said getting paid by Groff was a feature of their time with Epstein. Lacerda said it was often Groff who gave her cash, particularly when Epstein was out of town.
“She would put it in a long white envelope and the cash would always be in hundreds. Never in twenties, never in fives, never in tens — like it just came out the bank,” she said. Lacerda said that the payments took place at Epstein’s New York City office on the stairs, and that Groff “would hand the envelope over and we would leave. And we would know, like, not to stay very long there because we knew that we were young and we did not belong there.”
The first anonymous woman also said she received money in envelopes from Groff, and that it happened frequently. “We would go pick up money from Lesley every other day. Not even for massage — just because. We had no money unless we brought a girl,” she said.
Phillips told CNN it was “impossible” for Groff to claim that she never gave the girls money, explaining that she went to Epstein’s office to pick up checks for school tuition from Groff.
Groff told lawmakers that from 2001 to about 2013, she “never stepped foot” in Epstein’s New York City townhouse.
The first anonymous woman, who said she was abused by Epstein starting in the early 2000s, said she saw Groff at Epstein’s townhouse many times. “Is she kidding? Unless I’m hallucinating and she has a twin,” she said.
Blume McGee, who said she was abused by Epstein in the early 2000s, said she saw Groff in person at least twice and that it was only at Epstein’s townhouse.
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Groff told lawmakers that she never provided Broadway tickets to any of the masseuses.
Lacerda and the first anonymous woman both said they went to Epstein’s New York City office on numerous occasions to pick up Broadway tickets from Groff. “She would meet us in the staircase and she always would hand us over a white envelope,” Lacerda said.
She said she once walked out of “Phantom of the Opera” because she didn’t enjoy it.
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