乔希·夏皮罗无法回避关于他的那些问题。他决定不再逃避


2026-06-01T09:00:07.828Z / 美国有线电视新闻网(CNN)

宾夕法尼亚州阿宾顿镇——

自从卡玛拉·哈里斯开始考虑将他列为竞选搭档以来,乔希·夏皮罗就一直饱受一种熟悉的流言蜚语:人们嘴上说并不介意这位宾夕法尼亚州州长是犹太人和犹太复国主义者,但却坚称其他人会介意。

无论是否会参加2028年总统竞选,他都表示,专家和舆论造势者们都误解了他和选民——他们总说他过于中间派、过于循规蹈矩,或是过于支持以色列,因此无法成为民主党未来的一部分。

“我活在现实世界里,作为一个公开宣扬并为自己的信仰感到自豪的人,我每天都在和民众打交道,”夏皮罗在离他家不远的地方接受CNN的深度采访时说道,“而在这个全美最具竞争力的摇摆州宾夕法尼亚,我所感受到的是包容、善意,最重要的是,民众只是希望他们的民选官员每天都能为他们履职,拿出实实在在的成果。”

目前,夏皮罗表示他的重心放在宾夕法尼亚州——正如他常说的,“这个州决定了一切”。该州的民调支持率居高不下,且今年他既没有面临党内初选挑战,也没有遇到强劲的共和党对手。他希望在今年秋季的连任竞选中斩获佳绩,并帮助拿下最多四个美国国会众议院席位——此前他支持的候选人在各选区初选中全部获胜。

但这位几乎在每场重要演讲中都会引用拉比文本中著名段落的政治家,也决定直面有关以色列的议题,无论是为了未来的总统竞选,还是仅仅为了影响这场比美国其他任何犹太政客都更频繁地聚焦于他的讨论。

他清楚,在民主党因哈马斯2023年10月7日袭击事件后加沙的伤亡人数而对以色列批评声越来越大的当下,以色列问题是党内最难处理的议题之一。经过深思熟虑,夏皮罗认定自己无法回避外界对他立场的质疑——而且他也不想逃避。

“我认为我们需要为这场讨论注入一些真相和现实,”他告诉CNN。

“对于那些不希望看到犹太国家存在的人来说,他们常常会基于这样一种观点来阐述自己的立场:拥有宗教根基与作为民主国家无法共存。我认为有必要指出这种观点的虚伪之处:全球有46个穆斯林占多数的国家,其中23个以伊斯兰教作为法定国教,无论是通过法律条文还是宪法规定,而只有一个国家以犹太教作为法定国教,但我们却唯独盯着这个犹太国家不放,”夏皮罗补充道。

“其次,对于那些不希望以色列在该地区存在的人,我认为他们是在支持永久战争——而几十年来我一直支持和平,致力于实现两国和平共存,我认为我们需要达成一项和平协议,不仅是以色列和巴勒斯坦之间,而是整个阿拉伯世界。”

夏皮罗批评前总统乔·拜登政府没有将这类多边和平协议列为优先事项,称他们“错失了机会”。

他还抱怨唐纳德·特朗普总统在纵容以色列总理本雅明·内塔尼亚胡,称后者“正将以色列引向危险且黑暗的道路,让以色列更加孤立。我认为他对以色列的领导制造了我们如今在这个国家和全球范围内看到的诸多地缘政治问题。”

如果换掉5月19日那场演讲的几段内容——也就是他支持的众议院候选人全部胜出的那个夜晚——夏皮罗就已经准备好了一份竞选启动演说。

他甚至可以选择同一个地点发表演讲:一处曾用于早期宇航员训练的G力测试旧设施,如今已被改造成气派的活动场地,控制室仍保留完好,就在他最终彩排演讲词的房间旁边。他的演讲中几乎每隔几句就会用到一个短语:办成事(或是“狗屁倒灶的事”——这个词在他连任启动视频的屏幕上曾出现过)。

他的支持者已经准备好在11月中期选举结束后的第二天就宣称,他们期待的那场大胜将为他明年参选更高职位提供强有力的理由。当然,对于一名办公地点设在哈里斯堡的州长而言,他近期也在大量谈论外交政策。

“我们现在身处乔希·夏皮罗的主场吗?”进步派州参议员文森特·休斯(其妻子谢丽尔·李·拉尔夫在《小学风云》中饰演芭芭拉·霍华德,该剧背景设定在费城)在集会上说道。

今年年初,夏皮罗就着手为四个共和党选区招募候选人——他表示众议院少数党领袖哈基姆·杰弗里斯曾告诉他,这些选区很可能会决定众议院的多数席位归属。他帮助候选人筹款、竞选并组织竞选活动。
“对我来说,这是关键的一步:如果能得到州长的支持,我认为我现在就能成功,”消防员工会主席鲍勃·布鲁克斯说道,他不仅获得了夏皮罗的背书,还有佐赫兰·曼达尼的团队为他提供竞选顾问服务。

在集会上,先于夏皮罗上台发言的是鲍勃·哈维,他正在挑战众议员布莱恩·菲茨帕特里克——2024年特朗普败选后,仍有三名共和党议员在拜登拿下的选区胜出,菲茨帕特里克便是其中之一。哈维会后告诉CNN:“他作为本党头号候选人的身份,是我决定参选的一个因素。”

尽管夏皮罗在演讲中提到了威廉·佩恩的象征意义,并致力于让民主党首次在州参议院获得多数席位——这一局面自1992年以来从未出现过,但他2022年竞选时常挂在嘴边的一句话已经不见了:比起华盛顿特区,他更关注宾夕法尼亚州的华盛顿县——这是一个乡村地区,在他迄今为止的三次全州竞选活动中,他在该县的表现都优于其他民主党候选人。

如今,他会谈起自己减税的七项举措,以及特朗普和他口中的国会中那些“帮凶”该为上涨的医保保费和更高的生活成本负责。

“我的立场从未改变。我倾听的民众也从未改变。甚至可以说,我的关注点现在更集中在宾夕法尼亚州,”夏皮罗告诉CNN,“但你无法忽视世界上正在发生的事情。”

不过,巴克斯县也充斥着那些既投票支持他又投票支持特朗普的选民。他选择这个地点发表演讲,不只是为了告诉观众,他的高中 sweetheart 妻子就是在那里长大的。

夏皮罗的律师团队正着手反驳他上月所称的司法部“公然违法”的声明:司法部宣布国税局将“永远禁止且排除”对特朗普及其家人或相关信托基金进行任何审计或采取任何行动。

正如他在集会上的演讲中所阐述的,这位前州总检察长希望起诉他所称的本届政府的腐败行为。他表示,他认为可以利用州法院“不是为了惩罚某个人,而是为了明确,在我们走向下一个250年之际,这种行为对于任何后来者来说都是不可接受的。”

夏皮罗指责特朗普“显然状态也不佳”。
“很明显,他现在很难保持连贯的思考,在会议期间保持清醒也变得越来越困难,”他说道,并补充道:“他无法专注于对美国民众重要的事务,比如降低生活成本。”

白宫发言人戴维斯·英格尔随后通过电子邮件回应,称夏皮罗是“一个永远当不了总统的愚蠢无知的小矮子”,还表示特朗普“身体状况极佳,正24小时不间断地致力于让美国再次伟大”。

5月19日集会的后台,夏皮罗一边用手机查看选举结果,一边给布鲁克斯打电话祝贺他,而布鲁克斯当时还在发表胜选演讲。第二天下午,他和市长佩奇·科涅蒂一同出现在斯克兰顿,他也曾帮助科涅蒂参选挑战共和党众议员罗布·布雷斯纳汉。

贾内尔·斯泰尔森正第二次挑战共和党众议员斯科特·佩里。她表示,尽管自己在当地新闻主播岗位上报道过夏皮罗的前几次就职典礼,早就认识他,但并未料到他会出现在自己此次竞选的启动派对上,也没料到他会立刻给出背书。

他们私下里并不十分亲近,但“他对太多人意义重大,我几乎在每次交谈中都会提到他,”斯泰尔森告诉CNN。

当被问及她是否认为今年借助夏皮罗预计会带来的选举连带优势,能帮助她在重赛中胜出时,斯泰尔森说:“呃,没错。”

“我对自己的支持度非常有信心”

哈里斯在2024年的竞选搭档遴选过程中看法却不同——这一过程在两人的后续回忆录中都有提及。哈里斯在书中写道,她不喜欢夏皮罗那种总是力求完美的气场。夏皮罗则在书中提到,当被问及是否曾接触过或与以色列政府特工打过交道时,他感到怀疑,认为这个问题带有反犹主义色彩。哈里斯的盟友表示,这只是一个常规问题,源于他职业生涯早期在以色列大使馆担任过一个低级职位。

那段任职经历、他对加沙战争期间一些校园抗议活动的批评,以及他曾在大学报纸专栏中撰文质疑巴勒斯坦人建立自己家园的能力,都成了外界批评他的把柄。一些支持巴勒斯坦的声音给他贴上了“种族灭绝乔希”的标签。

在哈里斯的官邸接受采访时,哈里斯——在巴拉克·奥巴马和其姐夫托尼·韦斯特等人的催促下考虑选择夏皮罗作为搭档——最终抛出了一个关键问题:没有他的支持,她能拿下宾夕法尼亚州吗?

夏皮罗告诉她,他不知道。

最终,她还是没能做到。

即便今年一切都顺着夏皮罗的意愿发展,本州民主党人仍有诸多质疑——不仅仅是针对他在以色列问题上的立场——左翼人士表示,如果他试图进军全国政坛,这些质疑声只会愈演愈烈。

“在该州基础深厚的深蓝地区,乔希·夏皮罗不足以拿下宾夕法尼亚州,”极左翼的正义民主党发言人乌萨马·安德拉比说道,该党在全国范围内支持极左翼初选候选人。

当被问及这一观点时,夏皮罗回应道:“但这些选民之前都支持过我,我对他们的支持心怀感激。”

目前,这场争论正在全国最稳固的民主党据点上演,比如南费城国会选区,该选区由州议员克里斯·拉布拿下,他还开玩笑说这里“浣熊都比共和党人多”。

拉布是一名自豪的民主社会主义者,竞选期间曾与众议员亚历山德里亚·奥卡西奥-科特兹一同造势。他还曾和Twitch主播哈桑·皮克尔一同拉票,皮克尔曾发表过美国“活该”遭遇2001年9月11日袭击的言论,后来他为该言论道歉,还曾称哈马斯“比以色列好1000倍”——不过他表示自己并非真的这么认为。

在高中外顶着酷暑为初选拉票时,拉布表示,他在众议院初选中的胜利表明,民主党人希望朝着不一定与夏皮罗政治理念相符的方向前进。

当被问及如何评价这位州长的政治主张时,拉布说:“我认为他的行事准则是逃离政治中心,而我则是在向道德中心靠拢。两者有一些重叠,但核心非常不同。”

初选结束后的第二天,夏皮罗给拉布打了电话,两人就携手合作进行了长时间的交谈。但当被问及拉布的这番言论时,夏皮罗表示需要了解背景才能回应。在得知背景后,他表示仍会暂不直接回应。

不过,他还是对这种观点进行了回击:“我想要变革,我想要彻底的变革,但你不必通过混乱来实现这一点,”他说道。

“我不会针对个人,但总有些人喜欢分析我,在一旁指手画脚。我无视这些杂音,专注于办成事,”夏皮罗说道,“而且我只想指出,从政治角度来看,我现在已经两次参加州长竞选,都没有遇到党内初选对手,得到了民主党全体的支持。我首次当选州长时获得了创纪录的选票,我认为我们在此次连任竞选中处于非常有利的位置。所以我对自己在这里的支持度非常有信心。”

Josh Shapiro couldn’t avoid the questions about him. He decided he doesn’t want to

2026-06-01T09:00:07.828Z / CNN

Abington Township, Pennsylvania—

Ever since Kamala Harris started thinking about picking him as her running mate, Josh Shapiro has been the subject of a familiar kind of whisper: People maintain that they don’t have a problem that the Pennsylvania governor is Jewish and a Zionist – but insist others will.

Whether or not he gets into the 2028 presidential race, he says, the pundits and the posters should realize that they’re getting him and voters wrong when they say he can’t be part of the future of the Democratic Party because he’s too centrist, too buttoned up or too supportive of Israel.

“I’m living in the real world, where I’m interacting with people every day as someone who’s open about and proud of his faith,” Shapiro told CNN in an extensive interview not far from his home. “And what I experience for the people of Pennsylvania, the toughest swing state in the entire country, is tolerance, is goodness and above all else, is just a desire to have their elected leaders go to work for them every day and deliver real results.”

For now, Shapiro says his focus is on Pennsylvania – “the state that decides it all,” as he likes to say, where his approval ratings remain high and he once again drew neither a primary challenge nor a strong Republican opponent. He’s looking to run up the score in his reelection campaign this fall and help flip up to four US House seats after his picks for each race won their primaries.

But a politician who alludes to a famous passage from a rabbinic text in nearly every major speech has also decided to run headlong into talking about Israel, whether for a future presidential campaign’s sake or just to influence a conversation that tends to land on him more than any other Jewish politician in the United States.

He knows the Israel issue is one of the hardest in a Democratic Party that is becoming increasingly critical of Israel amid the casualties in Gaza following Hamas’ October 7, 2023, attacks. After much deliberation, Shapiro decided he couldn’t outrun the questions about where he stands – and he didn’t want to.

“I felt that we needed to inject some truth and some reality into the conversation,” he told CNN.

“For those who do not want there to be a Jewish state, oftentimes they will predicate their views on this notion that being grounded in a religion and being a democracy can’t coexist. I think it’s important to point out the hypocrisy of that view: when there are 46 majority Muslim nations, 23 of which have Islam as their official religion either because of statute or their constitution, and only one has Judaism as their official religion, and yet we’re focused just on the Jewish state,” Shapiro added.

“Second, for those who don’t want Israel to exist in the region, I think that they are for permanent war — and I have for decades been for peace, for striving to have two states living peacefully side by side, and I would argue that we need to have a peace deal, not just between Israel and the Palestinians, but the entire Arab world.”

Shapiro criticizes former President Joe Biden’s administration for not making that kind of multilateral peace deal a priority, saying they had a “missed opportunity.”

He also complains that President Donald Trump is enabling Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who is “steering Israel down a dangerous and dark path, creating more isolation for Israel. And I believe that his leadership of Israel has created many of the geopolitical problems that we’re seeing across this country and the globe.”

Swap out a few paragraphs of the speech Shapiro gave May 19, the night his House primary picks went 4-for-4, and he has an address for the campaign launch ready to go.

He could even do the speech in the same location: an old G-force training facility for early astronauts that’s been turned into a flashy event space, with the control room still in place next to the room where he took a final pass through his remarks ticking through examples of the phrase he rarely goes more than a few sentences without using: getting stuff (or “sh*t,” the word that appeared on-screen in his reelection launch video) done.

His boosters are already geared up for the morning after the November midterms to say that the big night they’re expecting will provide a strong rationale to run for something bigger next year. And of course, he’s talking a lot about foreign policy for a man whose current job is based in Harrisburg.

“Are we in Josh Shapiro country?” progressive state Sen. Vincent Hughes (whose wife, Sheryl Lee Ralph, plays Barbara Howard on “Abbott Elementary,” set in Philadelphia) declared at the rally.

Shapiro set out early this year to line up a slate of candidates for four Republican districts he says Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries told him could very well decide the majority in the House, helping recruit, fundraise, campaign and organize operations for them.

“It was the final click for me: if I have the governor’s support, I think I can do this now,” said Bob Brooks, the firefighters union president who had both Shapiro’s endorsement and Zohran Mamdani’s consultants working for him.

Ahead of Shapiro at the microphone at the rally was Bob Harvie, who’s running against Rep. Brian Fitzpatrick, one of three Republicans who won in districts that Harris carried over Trump in 2024. Harvie told CNN afterward about Shapiro, “His being on the top of the ticket was a factor in taking on this race.”

Though Shapiro talked William Penn iconography and trying to win a majority in the state Senate for the first time since 1992, gone is the line he liked to fall back on when running in 2022 that he was more focused on his state’s Washington County — a rural area where he did better than other Democrats in his three statewide runs so far — than Washington, DC.

Now he talks about the seven ways he cut taxes and how Trump and what he calls the president’s “enablers” in Congress are to blame for higher health care premiums and higher costs.

“My perspective hasn’t changed. The people I listen to has not changed at all. If anything, it’s even more focused on Pennsylvania,” Shapiro told CNN. “But you can’t ignore what’s happening in the world.”

Bucks County, though, is also full of the types of voters who keep on voting for both him and Trump. He didn’t pick the spot just to tell the crowd about how his high school sweetheart wife had grown up there.

Shapiro has lawyers looking at pushing back on what he called a “blatantly illegal” announcement from the Justice Department last month that the IRS would be “FOREVER BARRED AND PRECLUDED” from any audit or any action against Trump, members of his family or related trusts.

And as he started to lay out in his rally speech, the former state attorney general wants to prosecute what he says is the administration’s corruption, saying that he believes state courts can be put into play “not to be punitive against an individual, but to make clear that as we head into the next 250 years, that this type of behavior is not going to be acceptable for anybody that comes next.”

Shapiro alleges Trump is “obviously also not well.”

“It is clear that it’s getting harder for him to hold a cogent thought. It’s harder for him to remain awake during meetings,” he said, adding: “He is not able to focus on the tasks that matter to the American people, like bringing down costs.”

White House spokesman Davis Ingle responded to that with an email calling Shapiro “a clueless little moron who will never be president,” adding that Trump “remains in excellent health and he is working 24/7 to Make America Great Again.”

Backstage at the May 19 rally, Shapiro was checking the results on his phone, calling Brooks to congratulate him while the candidate was still giving his victory speech. The next afternoon, he was in Scranton with Mayor Paige Cognetti, whom he also helped get into the race against GOP Rep. Rob Bresnahan.

Janelle Stelson, making a second run against GOP Rep. Scott Perry, said that though she’s known Shapiro since covering his previous inaugurations while still working as a local news anchor, she hadn’t expected him to show up at her launch party for this run or endorse right away.

They’re not particularly close personally, but “he means so much to so many people that I mention him in almost every conversation I have,” Stelson told CNN.

Asked if she thinks running this year with Shapiro’s expected coattails will help in her rematch, Stelson said, “Uh, yeah.”

‘I feel very confident in my standing’

Harris saw it differently in 2024 during a running-mate search that both she and Shapiro have covered in their post-election books. She wrote about not liking his always-striving vibe. He wrote about being suspicious why he was asked if he had ever been or dealt with an agent of the Israeli government, feeling the question was antisemitic. Harris allies say it was a standard question prompted by his brief stint in a low-level position at the Israeli embassy early in his career.

That stint, his criticism of some campus protests over the Gaza war and a college newspaper column he wrote doubting that Palestinians had the ability to establish their own homeland all became fodder for criticism of him. Some pro-Palestinian voices dubbed him “Genocide Josh.”

In their interview at her official residence, Harris – who was getting nudged to pick Shapiro by Barack Obama and her brother-in-law, Tony West, among others – built up to a big question: Could she win Pennsylvania without him?

He didn’t know, Shapiro told her.

In the end, she did not.

Even if everything goes Shapiro’s way this year, there’s plenty of skepticism from home-state Democrats – and not just about his views on Israel – that people on the left say will be amplified if he tries to go national.

“In the deep-blue parts of the state where the base is, Josh Shapiro is not enough to win Pennsylvania,” said Usamah Andrabi, a spokesperson for the very left-leaning Justice Democrats, which supports left-leaning primary candidates around the country.

Told of that sentiment, Shapiro responded: “And those voters have supported me, and I’m grateful for their support.”

For now, the argument is playing out in the most solidly Democratic spots in the country, like the South Philadelphia congressional district that state Rep. Chris Rabb won and which he jokes has “more raccoons than Republicans.”

Rabb is a proud democratic socialist who was joined on the trail by Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. He also campaigned with Twitch streamer Hasan Piker, who said the US “deserved” the September 11, 2001, attacks, a comment Piker has since said he regretted making, and saying Hamas was “1,000 times better” than Israel, which he says he doesn’t.

Sitting outside a high school catching voters in the heat of primary afternoon, Rabb said his House primary victory spoke to Democrats wanting to move in a direction that doesn’t necessarily align with Shapiro’s brand of politics.

Asked to assess the politics of the governor, Rabb said, “I believe his ethic is running from the political center, and I am running from the moral center. And there is some overlap, but they’re very different centers.”

Shapiro called Rabb the morning after the primary, and they had a long talk about working together. But read that quote, Shapiro said he needed to know the context before responding. Told the context, he said he still would hold off from responding directly.

He did take a swing at the sentiments, though: “I want change. I want radical change. But you don’t need chaos in order to do that,” he said.

“I’m not going to personalize this, but there are people that want to analyze me and chirp from the outside. I ignore the noise. I focus on getting stuff done,” Shapiro said. “And I would just point out, politically, I’ve now run for governor twice with no primary, with a unified Democratic Party behind me, and I think we head into this reelection in a very strong position after winning my first election with a record number of votes. So I feel very confident in my standing here.”

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