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文字实录:美国贸易代表贾米森·格里尔做客《与玛格丽特·布伦南面对面》节目,2026年5月17日

2026-05-17T09:05:00-0400 / 哥伦比亚广播公司新闻

以下是美国贸易代表贾米森·格里尔接受采访的文字实录,该采访于2026年5月17日在《与玛格丽特·布伦南面对面》节目中播出。

玛格丽特·布伦南: 我们今天早上的节目首先请到总统经济团队的核心成员、美国贸易代表贾米森·格里尔。大使,早上好。

贾米森·格里尔: 早上好。很高兴来到这里。

玛格丽特·布伦南: 这不仅仅是情绪问题。当前汽油均价为每加仑4.51美元。自战争爆发以来,美国人在燃油上的花费比一年前多出450亿美元。股市有所上涨,但低收入美国人正在缩减开支。纽约联邦储备银行报告称,年收入低于12.5万美元的家庭减少了汽车加油频率。你要如何为普通美国民众提供救济?

贾米森·格里尔: 好吧,我们都知道没人希望看到油价上涨。但与此同时,总统一直在平衡外交政策考量。我们都知道,除了希望油价走低,我们也不想让子孙后代继承一个伊朗拥有核武器的世界。因此总统正尽其所能关注民生负担问题。他正在推动美国本土就业回流。我们正致力于提高薪资,以抵消物价上涨带来的影响,而且我们看到乳制品、奶酪、面粉等生活必需品的价格正在下降。所以我们对此非常重视。总统对此高度关注,我们期待随着海湾地区的行动结束,油价能尽快回落。

玛格丽特·布伦南: 但目前我们没有相关的时间框架。让我来问问你刚刚在亚洲推进的工作。中国方面表示,同意与美国建立投资委员会,审议中国对美投资,并设立双边贸易委员会讨论关税问题。哪些产品将受到该委员会的影响?这些项目是否超出了你目前正在进行的调查范围?

贾米森·格里尔: 因此,当我们谈及贸易委员会时,我们考虑的是如何管理美中经济关系。这是两个差异巨大的经济体,我们的重点是非敏感商品贸易。当你谈及敏感商品时,也就是那些最高端的科技产品,那些可被用于军事用途的产品,这些都属于国家安全问题。所以我们正计划讨论诸如对华农产品出口、能源产品、波音飞机、医疗设备等领域的贸易。当我们谈及希望从中国进口的商品时,有很多品类,比如消费品,可能还有低技术含量的商品,因此我们关注的是这些我们本应开展贸易的领域。在投资方面,投资委员会主要是为了讨论美中投资政策中的关键问题。这其实算不上一个投资计划,而是更像是一个“救火队”,在两国之间出现问题时及时加以解决。

玛格丽特·布伦南: 所以这看起来确实是传递稳定信号的举措,因为你们此前已经在双边层面讨论过很多这类问题,对吧?我的意思是,有什么新变化吗?

贾米森·格里尔: 我们此前从未设立过贸易委员会或投资委员会,美中两国之间一直采取临时专案的处理方式,我认为这实际上存在挑战。我认为将这些双边关系正式化更为重要。美国对中国实施了一系列关税、进口管制和出口管制措施。中国长期以来也存在一系列非关税壁垒,以及其他阻碍我们商品进口的限制性举措。通过两国政府之间的正式渠道来讨论这些问题,效果会好得多。除此之外,我们看到中国在过去几天里针对牛肉、家禽等农产品取消了一系列非关税壁垒。因此我们已经看到他们开始采取措施,促进从美国的进口。

玛格丽特·布伦南: 好的,我稍后会回头再谈这些问题,但我想先问问关税相关事宜。总统对记者表示,他完全没有和习近平主席讨论过关税问题。我们目前正处于无限期的贸易休战期吗?还是说你正考虑将关税税率恢复至最高法院裁决之前的水平?

贾米森·格里尔: 好吧,中国方面清楚这一点,这也是我们协议的一部分——美国可以将关税上调至我们在10月釜山协议时实施的更高水平,当时习近平主席和特朗普总统会面,而在2月的最高法院案件之后,中国商品的关税税率被下调了约10个百分点。我们认为,根据我们的协议,我们可以再次上调关税。总统正在探索他手中的不同工具。我不想先入为主地评判正在进行的多项调查。和我们打交道的许多其他国家一样,中国方面清楚,我们将维持一定水平的关税以管控进口,但我们也期望对方开放市场。

玛格丽特·布伦南: 好吧,但上次你做客本节目时,在最高法院裁决之后,你曾表示,当部分关税于7月到期时,你预计会在相关调查结束后,依据301条款授权推出新的关税措施。那么你现在是在说,你不再预计7月之后会出台新关税了吗?

贾米森·格里尔: 好吧,我当时就很谨慎地说明了这一点,因为我的法律顾问总是提醒我要这么说。我不能先入为主地评判这些调查的结果。如果这些调查发现存在关税壁垒或不公平贸易行为,它们可以授权总统采取诸如关税、服务收费、配额等类似措施。因此,如果调查结果如我们预期的那样,即中国和其他国家存在严重的产能过剩问题,我们肯定会向总统提交这些选项。我们会在这些调查得出结论后,向大家通报调查结果。

玛格丽特·布伦南: 好的,我们确实看到中国在周六发布了一份声明,证实了与美国达成的部分协议,但声明相当模糊,没有提到特朗普总统对记者所说的如果首批200架波音飞机订单顺利完成,中国将承诺购买750架波音飞机的内容。中国方面表示,美国承诺供应飞机发动机,但没有提到特朗普总统宣布的400至450台通用电气发动机订单。通用电气方面也未发表评论。那么,这些协议的确定性有多高?

贾米森·格里尔: 首批200架波音飞机的订单是确定的。未来显然还会有更多波音飞机的订单。实际情况是,这是近10年来中国首次大规模采购或订购波音飞机。所以这一订单正在推进中,正如总统所说的那样。你知道的,一旦波音公司完成交付,这将带来巨大的利好。至于其他一些细节问题,我们正在敲定一份情况说明书,希望能尽快发布,这样我们就能明确说明我们预计中国将大幅增加农产品采购规模,以及在此次访问期间达成一致的其他相关事项。

玛格丽特·布伦南: 好的,我知道通用电气今天正在与中国方面会面,但我们尚未看到他们关于飞机发动机的相关消息。在农产品方面,保守派的《华尔街日报》编辑委员会质疑此次峰会是否实现了任何宣称的成果,因为相关内容一直含糊不清。他们写道:“特朗普先生吹嘘中国会大手笔采购美国大豆和飞机,但中国并未确认这些销售,据我们统计,这已经是中国第二次,或者说是第三次购买同一批美国大豆了。”他们似乎在指责你在玩“ shell游戏”,也就是重新宣布过去的协议,声称中国会在一段时间内分批采购。你能拿出具体细节来回应这些保守派怀疑论者吗?

贾米森·格里尔: 首先,自去年10月以来,我们就与中国达成了协议,在本届总统任期内,中国每年将采购2500万吨大豆,该协议仍然有效。我们预计新的采购协议中,具体采购数字将很快公布,农产品总采购量将实现两位数增长。我所说的总采购量,包括大豆、牛肉、谷物、乳制品等各类产品。因此,他们可能提到的现有大豆采购协议依然有效,除此之外,我们还将达成上述农产品采购协议,所有这些都将通过与中国的贸易委员会磋商来落实。

玛格丽特·布伦南: 所以仍然没有敲定具体细节,只是一个总括性的协议。那么美国做出了多少让步?为了达成这项协议,美国做出了哪些让步?

贾米森·格里尔: 好吧,一方面,这是一个贸易平衡的问题,对吧?我们正努力实现与中国的贸易平衡。长期以来,贸易失衡状况一直很严重。因此,当你看到中国方面的表态时,我可以证实,相关内容包括波音飞机销售以及飞机和汽车零部件、飞机零配件等的销售。中国希望确保他们能够定期获得这类备件,以便维持机队运营。这也是我们愿意做的事情。我们专注于互利共赢的贸易,因此在讨论这类问题时,我们应该出口什么、应该进口什么,与其说是让步的问题,不如说是如何实现双方互利共赢的问题。这就是为什么我们如此关注非敏感商品贸易,因为这不需要做出让步,而是需要双方携手合作,探讨他们需要什么、我们想要出售什么、我们需要从他们那里进口什么。我们已经看到他们重新注册了过期的牛肉加工厂,恢复了对美国禽肉的进口,还与我们合作开展生物技术性状相关工作,确保这类转基因产品能够顺利进入中国市场,不会出现任何问题。

玛格丽特·布伦南: 中国对美贸易顺差仍然高于美国对华贸易顺差,但这一差距已经缩小了约31.5%。谢谢你,大使。

贾米森·格里尔: 是的,我们很高兴看到这一进展。这是我们的主要目标之一,能够取得这样的成果非常好。

Transcript: U.S. Trade Representative Jamieson Greer on “Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan,” May 17, 2026

2026-05-17T09:05:00-0400 / CBS News

The following is the transcript of the interview with U.S. Trade Representative Jamieson Greer that aired on “Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan” on May 17, 2026.

MARGARET BRENNAN: We begin this morning with a top member of the president’s economic team, United States Trade Representative Jamieson Greer. Good morning to you, Ambassador.

JAMIESON GREER: Good morning. Good to be here.

MARGARET BRENNAN: It isn’t just a matter of sentiment. Gas is at an average of $4.51 a gallon. Americans have spent $45 billion more on fuel since the war began versus a year ago. The stock market is up, but lower-income Americans are pulling back on their spending. The New York Fed reports households earning less than $125,000 a year are fueling up their cars less often. How do you provide relief to the average American?

JAMIESON GREER: Well, we know that no one wants to see higher gas prices. At the same time, the president is balancing foreign policy considerations. We know that, in addition to wanting to have low gas prices, we don’t want our children or grandchildren to inherit a world where Iran has a nuclear weapon, so the president is focused on affordability in as many ways that he can- that he can. He’s bringing jobs back to America. We’re focused on getting wages up to offset any kind of increase in prices, and we’re seeing prices go down for staples like dairy, cheese, flour, etc. So we’re very focused on this. The president’s focused on it, and we look forward to seeing those prices come down soon as the operations wrap up in the Gulf.

MARGARET BRENNAN: But we have no time frame for that at this point. Let me ask you about what you were just working on in Asia. China said it agreed with the United States to establish a board of investment to consider Chinese investment here in the U.S., and to establish bilateral boards of trade to discuss tariffs. Which products are going to be affected by that board. Are these items outside the current investigations that you are conducting?

JAMIESON GREER: So, when we think about the Board of Trade, we’re thinking about how to manage economic relations between the U.S. and China. These are two economies that are quite different, and we’re focused on trade in non-sensitive goods. When you talk about sensitive goods, you know the most high-tech stuff, you know, things that can be used for military uses, those are things that- those are national security issues. So we’re looking to discuss things like sales of agricultural goods to China, energy goods, Boeings, medical devices. When we talk about the kinds of things we want to be importing from China, there are a number of things, there can be consumer goods, maybe low-tech items, and so we look at those types of areas where we should be trading. On the investment side, the Board of Investment is really about discussing key issues in U.S.-China investment policy. It’s not really an investment program, but it’s to try to almost be like a firefighter and put out issues when they arise between the two countries.

MARGARET BRENNAN: So really this just seems a message of stability, because you were already discussing a lot of these things on a bilateral basis, right? I mean, what’s new?

JAMIESON GREER: So we have never had a Board of Trade or a Board of Investment before, we’ve always had an ad hoc approach with China and the United States, which I think is actually challenging. I think it’s more important to formalize these relations. The United States has a host of tariffs, import controls, export controls on China. China has a number of non-tariff barriers that have been in place for a long time, other challenges they impose to block our imports and things like that. It’s much better to discuss these in a formalized way between our government and their government. In addition to this, we saw China over the past couple of days reduce a host of nontariff barriers on agricultural products, such as beef and poultry, et cetera. And so we’ve seen them already starting to do things to facilitate imports from the United States.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Well, I’ll come back to some of those in a moment, but I want to ask you about tariffs. The president said to reporters he did not discuss tariffs with Xi Jinping at all. Are we in an indefinite trade truce, or were you- are you looking at bringing that tariff rate back to where it was before the Supreme Court ruling?

JAMIESON GREER: Well, the Chinese know, and that’s part of our deal, that the United States can can elevate tariffs to the higher level that we had at the time of what we call the Busan deal in October, when President Xi and President Trump met, following the Supreme Court case in February, about 10 percentage points were knocked off the tariff rate for China. We believe under our deal that we are able to elevate that again. The president is exploring different tools that he has. I don’t want to prejudge a lot of the investigations that are happening. The Chinese know, just like many other countries we’re dealing with, that we’re going to have a certain level of tariff to control our imports, but that we also expect market opening.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Okay, but the last time you were here after the Supreme Court decision, you said that when some of these tariffs expire in July, that you would expect to roll out new tariffs after the end of these investigations under authority 301. So, are you saying now that you no longer expect tariffs to come into place after July?

JAMIESON GREER: Well, I think I was careful to tell you, because my general counsel always tells me to say this. I can’t prejudge the outcomes of those investigations. Those investigations, if they find on- tariff barriers or unfair trading practices, they can authorize the president to take actions like tariffs, like fees on services, like quotas, things like that. So we’ll certainly be presenting the president with those options, if those, if those investigations show what we think they might show, which is that there’s a huge problem with over capacity in China and other countries. So we’ll- we’ll get back to you on the findings in those investigations when they conclude.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Okay, we did see China on Saturday release a statement confirming some of the deals with the U.S., but it was pretty vague. There was no mention of the promise to buy 750 Boeing planes that President Trump told reporters about if the first 200 go well. China said there was a guarantee by the U.S. to supply aircraft engines, but it didn’t mention the 400 to 450 GE engines that the president announced. GE hasn’t commented either. So, how locked in are these agreements?

JAMIESON GREER: So, the 200 Boeings, those are locked in. There’s obviously a future to have more Boeings. The reality is, this is the first major purchase by China in almost 10 years of Boeings or orders, rather. So that’s- that’s going forward, and like the president said. You know, when and if Boeing delivers, there’s- there’s a lot of upside there. With respect to some of the other details. We’re finalizing a fact sheet that will hopefully get out very soon, so we can be clear about the double digit increase in agricultural purchases we expect from the Chinese, and some of the other things that happened and were agreed to during the visit.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Okay, and I know GE is meeting with China today, but we haven’t seen anything from them on the aircraft engines. On the ag products, the conservative Wall Street Journal editorial board questioned whether the summit achieved any of the stated wins, because of how vague these things have been. They said “Mr. Trump boasted about fantastic Chinese purchases of U.S. soybeans in aircraft, but China didn’t confirm the sales, and by our count, this is the second time China has bought the same American soybeans, or is it the third?” They’re kind of arguing you’re playing a shell game here with, like, reannouncing past deals on past agreements to purchase over a period of time. Can you answer these conservative skeptics with any specifics?

JAMIESON GREER: So, first of all, we’ve had a deal in place with the Chinese since October that they would buy 25 million metric tons of soybeans each year for the rest of the president’s administration, so that deal is still in force. What we expect with the new purchase agreements, where the specific number will be announced very soon, double digit purchases of aggregate agricultural products. When I say aggregate, I mean everything else that could be soybeans, that could be beef, that could be grains, that could be dairy products, all kinds of things. So we have the existing soybean deal that they may be referring to, and then over on top of that we have these agricultural products as well, and all of that will be facilitated by Board of Trade discussions with the Chinese.

MARGARET BRENNAN: So still not nailed down, just an aggregate agreement. So how many concessions did the US make? What were those concessions in order to get this?

JAMIESON GREER: Well, one thing, they’re- they’re balance trades here, right? We’re trying to get to balance trade with the Chinese. For a long time, it’s been out of whack. So, when you see something like what the Chinese said, which I can confirm, about a sale of Boeings accompanied by a sale of aircraft and auto parts and spare- auto parts, aircraft parts, and those kinds of things. The Chinese want to make sure that they have regular access to these kind of spare items, so they can continue to fly their fleets. So that’s something we want to do. We are focused on mutually beneficial trade, so when you’re talking about that kind of thing, what we should be exporting, what we should be importing, becomes less a question of concessions and more a question of what’s mutually beneficial for both of us. That’s why we’re so focused on non-sensitive trade, because that doesn’t, that doesn’t require concessions, that’s about working together, talking about what they need, what we want to sell, what we need from them, so we’re already seeing it as they’ve re-registered beef facilities, where beef facilities expired. They’re taking poultry again, they’re working with us on biotech traits to make sure that those types of products that have genetic modification can go into China without any problem.

MARGARET BRENNAN: China still sells more to the US than it buys, but that difference has decreased by about 31 and a half percent. So, thank you, Ambassador.

JAMIESON GREER : Yes, we’re very happy to see that progress. It’s a main goal that we have, and it’s good to be achieving it.

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