2026年5月13日 / 美国东部时间晚上7:31 / 哥伦比亚广播公司新闻
美国国土安全部部长马克韦恩·马林表示，该局暂无在近期关闭“鳄鱼恶魔岛”的计划，尽管他承认这座位于佛罗里达州的软性结构移民拘留中心易受自然灾害影响。
“我不认为我们曾表示要关闭它，”马林说道。“我们从未发布过这样的公告。”这位部长在接受哥伦比亚广播公司新闻的独家专访时表示，国土安全部清楚这座位于大沼泽地中央的软性结构设施“存在安全隐患”，并补充称“距离它不到20英里的地方发生过火灾”，而且“佛罗里达州很容易遭受飓风袭击”。
马林的此番言论出炉前，有报道称佛罗里达州政府雇佣运营“鳄鱼恶魔岛”的公司已于本周二收到通知，该设施将被关闭，预计未来几周内将转移剩余约1400名被拘留者。一位消息人士告诉哥伦比亚广播公司新闻迈阿密分社，“最后一名被拘留者将于6月离开”，原因是运营成本不断攀升，目前估计总额已接近10亿美元。
当被问及是否有近期关闭该场所的计划时，马林表示，国土安全部已制定应对自然灾害的应急计划，但暂无永久关闭该设施的计划。
“我们制定了应对野火或飓风等自然紧急情况的预案，必要时可以关停设施并转移人员，”他说道。但他补充称，国土安全部仍需要具备“在移民大量涌入时灵活应对”的能力，并称该设施是该局所需的“应急扩容能力”的一部分。
本周三，佛罗里达州州长罗恩·德桑蒂斯表示，佛罗里达州尚未收到联邦政府关于该设施是否会关闭或后续安排的明确通知。
佛罗里达州应急管理部门主任凯文·格思里周三对记者表示：“我们没有收到任何正式沟通，比如‘嘿，这是未来的计划，我们将如何推进’。这种情况从未发生过。”
该设施去年在佛罗里达州一处基本废弃的飞机跑道上启用。特朗普政府将其定位为关押移民被拘留者的低成本方案，当时该政府正加紧逮捕和驱逐行动，但维权团体批评了该设施的条件，并且该设施遭到了环保组织和一个原住民部落的法律挑战。
从仓库到废弃设施的转型
与此同时，马林表示，鉴于外界对仓库式拘留中心的审查，国土安全部正着手调整其扩容拘留容量的战略。当被问及国土安全部监察长对移民海关执法局（ICE）价值380亿美元的仓库拘留空间展开的调查时，马林指出，一些州正阻止国土安全部使用现有的拘留设施，迫使该局自行寻找场地。
“我们别无选择，只能继续推进这项工作，”马林说道，并补充称该局“将稍微调整一下重点”。马林表示，国土安全部不再仅考虑将仓库改造为移民拘留设施，而是正在探索使用县监狱以及可购买、修复并快速投入使用的已关闭州立和地方设施。
“我们不再只关注仓库，还将关注那些可能未履行拨款条款的县监狱，以及因运营成本过高而关闭的设施——因为州或县没有预算用于维护……我们可以购买这些设施，进行升级，立即获得可用床位，”他说道。
这位曾从事建筑业的部长指出，改造后的仓库需要办理许可、接通水电燃气以及进行大规模改建——这意味着部分仓库可能需要“18至24个月才能投入使用”。马林称，这一时间线“不符合当前的需求”。
移民海关执法局将迎来临时负责人
这位部长还证实，国土安全部将在移民海关执法局任命一名临时负责人，同时继续寻找常任局长。哥伦比亚广播公司新闻此前曾报道，代理移民海关执法局局长托德·莱昂斯计划于本月底离开联邦政府。
当被问及哥伦比亚广播公司新闻关于戴维·文彻洛将出任下任代理移民海关执法局局长的报道时，马林表示，他和文彻洛曾进行过“长时间会谈”，但国土安全部“实际上仍在寻找该职位的常任人选”。
“我们希望任命一名常任负责人，”马林说道。“戴维非常优秀。他会是一名出色的临时负责人，但一旦我们找到局长人选，他将担任副局长。”
国土安全部承认停摆后欠国务院、国防部、内政部债务
这位国土安全部部长还谈及了长达76天的停摆后，国土安全部拖欠其他联邦机构款项的问题，承认该局因其他部门协助维持其运营，而欠国务院、国防部和内政部总计数十亿美元的债务。
本周早些时候，参议院军事委员会资深民主党议员、罗德岛州参议员杰克·里德在国会听证会上警告称，由于国土安全部未就边境行动向陆军报销费用，陆军面临20亿美元的战备资金缺口。
“我们欠国务院的钱，欠国防部的钱，欠内政部的钱，因为他们一直在支撑我们的运作，”马林坦言。他表示，“随着资金到账，我们会开具支票并尽快寄出。”
马林特别提到了美国海岸警卫队，称其运营受到未支付的燃油和水电费影响，不得不依赖国防部支持。
“说真的，我们海岸警卫队的加油卡被停了，”马林说道。“自2月份以来，我们就没支付过汽油费、电费和燃油费。所以国防部帮助海岸警卫队维持了运作。”
DHS chief Mullin says agency has no plan to shut down “Alligator Alcatraz” detention center
May 13, 2026 / 7:31 PM EDT / CBS News
Secretary of Homeland Security Markwayne Mullin said the department has no near-term plan to shut down Alligator Alcatraz, even as he acknowledged the soft-sided Florida immigration detention facility is vulnerable to natural disasters.
“I don’t think we’ve said we’re shutting it down,” Mullin said. “That’s not been an announcement we’ve made.” The secretary told CBS News in an exclusive interview that DHS understands “there’s vulnerabilities” around the soft-sided facility in the middle of the Everglades, adding that “we have fires that are within 20 miles of it” and “Florida is pretty susceptible to hurricanes.”
Mullin’s comments follow reports that companies hired by the state of Florida to operate Alligator Alcatraz were notified Tuesday that the facility is being shut down, with roughly 1,400 remaining detainees expected to be removed in the coming weeks. One source told CBS News Miami that “the last detainee will leave in June,” amid escalating operating costs that are now estimated to total nearly $1 billion.
Pressed on whether there are any near-term plans to close the site, Mullin said DHS has contingency plans in the event of a natural disaster, but no plans to close the facility permanently.
“We have plans in case of a natural emergency such as a wildfire or hurricane, to have to be able to bring it down and pull the individuals out,” he said. But he added that DHS still needs the ability “to flex when we have a big influx” of migrants, calling the facility part of the department’s needed “surge capacity.”
On Wednesday, Gov. Ron Desantis said Florida has not received definitive notice from the federal government about whether the facility will close — or the road ahead.
Florida Division of Emergency Management Director Kevin Guthrie told reporters Wednesday, “We have received zero communication formally saying, ‘Hey, this is the path going forward. Here’s how we’re going to try to get there.’ That has not happened.”
The facility opened on a largely abandoned Florida airstrip last year. The Trump administration cast it as a cost-effective way of holding immigration detainees as it sought to ramp up arrests and deportations, but activist groups have criticized conditions at the facility, and it has drawn legal challenges from environmental groups and a Native American tribe.
A shift from warehouses to abandoned facilities
At the same time, Mullin said DHS is looking to reshape its strategy of expanding detention capacity, amid scrutiny of warehouse-style detention centers. Asked about the DHS inspector general’s probe of $38 billion in warehouse detention space within ICE, Mullin noted that some states are blocking DHS from using existing detention facilities, forcing the department to find its own space.
“We don’t have a choice but to continue that,” Mullin said, adding the department is “going to change the focus a little bit.” Instead of only looking to convert warehouses into immigration detention facilities, Mullin said DHS is exploring use of county jails as well as shuttered state and local facilities that can be purchased, repaired and brought online more quickly.
“Rather than just looking at warehouses, we’re going to look at county jails that may be in default on their grants. We’re going to be looking at facilities that have been shut down because they were too expensive to operate, because states or counties didn’t have the budget to do maintenance… where we purchase them, bring them up and immediately have beds available,” he said.
The secretary, citing his former background in construction, noted that converted warehouses can require permitting, utilities, water, gas and major build-outs — meaning some could take “18 to 24 months to bring online.” That timeline, Mullin said, “doesn’t fit today’s need.”
A temporary leader for ICE
The secretary also confirmed DHS is moving to put a temporary leader in place at ICE while continuing its search for a permanent director. Acting ICE Director Todd Lyons is planning on leaving the federal government at the end of the month, CBS News previously reported.
Asked about CBS News’ reporting that David Venturello will be the next acting ICE director, Mullin said he and Venturello have had “long conversations,” but that DHS is “still actually looking for a permanent position for the director.”
“We want to put somebody there that’s permanent,” Mullin said. “David is great. David is going to be a good placeholder, but he’ll be our deputy once we find someone to take the director’s position.”
DHS acknowledges debts owed to State, Pentagon, Interior after shutdown
The DHS secretary also addressed unpaid DHS bills to other federal agencies after a prolonged 76-day shutdown, acknowledging the department owes collective billions to the State Department, Pentagon and Department of Interior because they helped keep DHS operations running.
Earlier this week, Sen. Jack Reed of Rhode Island, the top Democrat on the Senate Armed Services Committee, warned at a congressional hearing that the Army is facing a $2 billion readiness shortfall tied to DHS’ failure to reimburse the service branch for operations along the border.
“We owe money to the State Department. We owe money to the Department of War. We owe money to the Interior because they were all keeping us afloat,” Mullin conceded. He said that “as the money comes in, we’re writing the checks and sending them out the door.”
Mullin pointed specifically to the U.S. Coast Guard, noting its operations were affected by unpaid fuel and utility bills, forcing reliance on the Defense Department.
“Our gas card, literally, for the Coast Guard, got shut off,” Mullin said. “We hadn’t paid our gas bill or electricity bill or the fuel bill since February. So DOW helped the Coast Guard stand up.”
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