2026-06-21T13:05:46-0400 / 哥伦比亚广播公司新闻
美国驻联合国大使迈克·沃尔茨周日在接受玛格丽特·布伦南主持的《面向全国》节目采访时表示,特朗普政府正“全力聚焦”解决伊朗核计划,当前美伊两国正在瑞士举行艰难的谈判。
周日早些时候,副总统JD·万斯及其他美国官员与伊朗外交部长阿巴斯·阿拉克奇以及议会议长穆罕默德·巴盖尔·加利巴夫一同进入会议室,这是两国高级特使之间罕见的直接会晤。加利巴夫在某些圈子里被描述为强硬派:他曾协助监督伊朗导弹计划的创建,还被指吹嘘镇压抗议者的行为。
“这个种族灭绝政权的任何高级官员都绝非好人,”沃尔茨说道,“他们肯定通不过联邦调查局的背景调查,没人会指望他们能通过。但归根结底,本届政府——我们的政府——正在采取务实的态度。”
沃尔茨周日表示,本届政府的核心目标是阻止伊朗获得核武器,这与他所说的此前美国对伊政策中的“政策摇摆”形成鲜明对比。但他补充道,“我们清楚我们正在打交道的是什么样的人”,并提及伊朗今年早些时候对示威活动进行的致命镇压,以及其关押美国公民的历史。
过去,特朗普政府曾提出更为广泛的战争目标,特朗普总统誓言要摧毁伊朗的导弹计划,并为伊朗人推翻政权铺平道路。然而最近,特朗普总统已将焦点专门放在核问题上,称伊朗拥有弹道导弹“没问题”,且他并不谋求“政权更迭”。
在美方这边,沃尔茨证实,美国能源部的“技术专家”已参与谈判,将协助解决伊朗核计划命运的“具体细节问题”,包括其高浓缩铀库存。
美伊两国可能达成的核协议的确切框架仍不明朗。双方上周签署了一份谅解备忘录,称双方“同意解决已储存的浓缩材料的处置问题”,其中将材料稀释列为“最低限度”的成果。但该文件几乎未提及具体细节,留下了大量问题需要在未来60天内通过技术谈判解决。
特朗普长期以来一直表示,他不希望伊朗浓缩铀——这是伊朗经常拒绝接受的一条红线。伊朗坚称其核计划旨在和平用途,而美国情报机构去年发现伊朗并未积极研发核武器,尽管其浓缩铀的纯度已超出大多数非军事用途所需的标准。
沃尔茨周日对哥伦比亚广播公司新闻表示,其目标是“伊朗不再拥有核计划”,这似乎坚持了特朗普的红线。他表示,特朗普政府希望该计划“被永久销毁,而不是像过去那样,核计划持续存在,我们基本上只是在贿赂他们不要继续推进”。
沃尔茨称,任何美伊之间的协议都将“完全围绕核查”,无需“信任”伊朗。作为伊朗遵守协议的交换条件,伊朗可以获得制裁解除形式的“甜头”。
一些国会共和党人批评解除制裁的想法,警告这可能会为伊朗释放资金,用于资助其常规军事力量或在财政上支持真主党等地区代理人。沃尔茨周日表示,伊朗通过石油销售获得的任何资金都将“流向我们仍可监督的地方”,不会进入“秘密基金”。
Mike Waltz says Iranian officials aren’t “good guys,” but Trump administration is “laser focused” on nuclear program
2026-06-21T13:05:46-0400 / CBS News
U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Mike Waltz said the Trump administration is “laser focused” on addressing Iran’s nuclear program in an interview Sunday on “Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan,” as the U.S. and Iran hold thorny talks in Switzerland.
Earlier Sunday, Vice President JD Vance and other U.S. officials entered a conference room with Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi and Parliament Speaker Mohammad Bagher Ghalibaf, a rare direct meeting between high-level envoys from both countries. Ghalibaf, in particular, is described in some quarters as a hardliner: He helped oversee the creation of Iran’s missile program and allegedly bragged about cracking down on protesters.
“None of these senior members of this genocidal regime are good guys by any means,” Waltz said. “They certainly wouldn’t pass an FBI background check. No one expects that. But, at the end of the day, the administration, our administration, is taking a pragmatic approach.”
Waltz said Sunday the administration’s focus is on preventing Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon, in contrast with what he called a “policy drift” in prior U.S. goals with Iran. But he added that “we know the type of people that we’re dealing with,” citing Iran’s deadly crackdown on demonstrations earlier this year and its history of imprisoning American citizens.
In the past, the Trump administration has laid out a more sweeping set of war aims, with President Trump vowing to destroy Iran’s missile program and set the stage for Iranians to overthrow the regime. More recently, however, Mr. Trump has focused specifically on nuclear issues, saying it’s “OK” for Iran to have ballistic missiles and he isn’t vying for “regime change.”
On the U.S. side, Waltz confirmed that “technical experts” from the Department of Energy are involved in the negotiations, and will help address the “nitty gritty details” of the fate of Iran’s nuclear program, including its stockpile of highly enriched uranium.
The exact structure of a potential U.S.-Iran nuclear deal remains unclear. The two sides signed a memorandum of understanding last week that said they “agreed to resolve the disposition of stockpiled enriched material,” with downblending the material cited as the “minimum” outcome. But the document included few specifics, leaving a mountain of issues that will need to be addressed in technical talks over the next 60 days.
Mr. Trump has long said he does not want Iran to enrich uranium — a red line that Iran has frequently rejected. Iran insists its nuclear program is intended for peaceful purposes, and U.S. intelligence agencies found last year that Iran wasn’t actively developing weapons, though it has enriched uranium beyond the level required for most non-military uses.
Waltz told CBS News on Sunday the goal is “Iran not having a nuclear program,” appearing to stick with Mr. Trump’s red line. He said the Trump administration wants the program “permanently destroyed, as opposed to the past, where it was ongoing, and we were basically bribing them to not continue.”
Any deal between the U.S. and Iran, Waltz said, would be “all about verification,” with “no trust” in Iran needed. And in exchange for complying with a deal, Iran could receive “carrots” in the form of sanctions relief.
Some congressional Republicans have criticized the idea of lifting sanctions, warning it could free up cash for Iran to fund its conventional military or financially support regional proxies like Hezbollah. Waltz said Sunday any money that Iran is allowed to collect from oil sales will be “going to places that we can still monitor,” and isn’t going into a “slush fund.”
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