2026年5月18日 美国东部时间下午4:03 / 福克斯新闻
卡托研究所学者大卫·比尔在众议院小组委员会听证会上表示，大规模驱逐将会“摧毁”华盛顿富裕郊区的社区
作者：查尔斯·克莱茨 福克斯新闻
共和党人抓住了自由意志主义智库卡托研究所的“移民温和派”大卫·比尔的一组数据不放，比尔在作证时称，费尔法克斯每5名居民中就有1名是非法移民，或是认识或与非法移民同住的人。
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这位智库政策分析师的证词意外遭到移民鹰派人士的重点关注，此前他在众议院司法小组委员会的一场听证会上发表了开场陈述，该听证会的焦点人物是颇具争议的费尔法克斯县检察官斯蒂芬·德斯卡诺。
这场听证会由加利福尼亚州共和党众议员托马斯·麦克林托克主持，审查了德斯卡诺被指对有前科的非法移民起诉不力的多起案例，其中包括一名被指控在美国1号公路公交站谋杀一名年轻女子的塞拉利昂国民。
卡托研究所移民问题专家大卫·比尔在开场发言中表示，“解决费尔法克斯问题的方法”并非继续推行唐纳德·特朗普总统的“大规模驱逐”政策。
“第一步应该放弃大规模驱逐的幻想，”比尔说道。
索罗斯资助的检察官将在国会山接受质询，庇护政策面临清算
费尔法克斯县检察官斯蒂芬·德斯卡诺（中）在众议院司法小组委员会听证会上听取证词。（汤姆·威廉姆斯/CQ 盖蒂图片社）
“大约每5名费尔法克斯居民中就有1名可能被驱逐，或是与被驱逐者同住——这会摧毁社区，将美国民众与其配偶、父母、朋友、家人、客户、员工、雇主、护士、保姆和教师拆散。”
尽管比尔后来补充称，他认为伤害美国民众的非公民应该被驱逐，但他此前的言论还是引起了包括犹他州共和党参议员迈克·李在内的多名移民鹰派人士的注意。
李借用比尔的逻辑来证明移民强硬派的观点，即大规模驱逐是正确的解决方案：
“恰恰相反：华盛顿富裕郊区有20%的人口是非法移民，这意味着我们应该加倍努力，将他们全部驱逐出境，”李说道。
比尔在给福克斯新闻数字频道的一份长篇声明中回应了李的言论，辩称这位犹他州共和党人并未解释大规模驱逐为何会对费尔法克斯县的美国民众有利。
“这位参议员的解释是什么？他从未说明伤害费尔法克斯县和当地居民对国家有何好处，因此无可辩驳，”比尔说道。
卡托研究所分析师大卫·比尔在国会作证。（格雷姆·斯隆/盖蒂图片社）
“参议员将这20%的人口全部描述为非法移民是错误的，因为其中一半只是与非法移民同住的人，这正是我的观点所在。”
“大规模驱逐会将美国民众与其配偶、父母、子女、朋友、家人、员工、雇主、客户、护士、保姆和教师拆散，从而伤害这些民众和许多其他人，”这位移民专家补充道。
比尔表示，随着非法移民人口的增长，大规模驱逐的成本会越来越高，也越来越不切实际，这意味着继续当前的路线会伤害美国民众。
“我想问问这位参议员：在他重新考虑自己的观点之前，会有多少美国人因为大规模驱逐而受到伤害？”
当被要求进一步置评时，李的发言人比利·格里宾告诉福克斯新闻数字频道，这位犹他州议员“相信执行美国法律并驱逐非法移民——而非为伤害美国民众的罪犯找借口”。
福克斯新闻数字频道也就这一明显的统计言论询问了国土安全部，该部门发言人将费尔法克斯以及弗吉尼亚州其他地区沦为“非法移民罪犯温床”的责任归咎于州长阿比盖尔·斯潘伯格的“鲁莽的庇护政策”。
“受害者的故事和事实不言自明。费尔法克斯县的庇护政客双手沾满鲜血，”这位发言人说道。
国土安全部部长马克韦恩·马林随后补充称，费尔法克斯最近记录的谋杀案中有一半据称是由“本不该待在我国的非法移民”所为。
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“有些政客想要保护罪犯，而特朗普总统仍在保护我们所有的社区，”马林说道。
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比尔提出的“五分之一”数据也被卡托研究所的一份文件引用，该文件的脚注来自华盛顿K街的移民政策研究所。移民政策研究所的数据显示，费尔法克斯估计有10.2万“无证”人口，而该地区2020年的人口普查数约为120万。
移民政策研究所的名单显示，在这方面排名靠前的“出生国”依次是萨尔瓦多、洪都拉斯、危地马拉、玻利维亚和秘鲁，而来自加拿大、欧洲和大洋洲的人口仅占4%。
查尔斯·克莱茨是福克斯新闻数字频道的记者。
他于2013年加入福克斯新闻，担任撰稿人和制作助理。
查尔斯负责报道福克斯新闻数字频道的媒体、政治和文化领域。
查尔斯是宾夕法尼亚州本地人，毕业于天普大学，获得广播新闻学学士学位。新闻线索可发送至charles.creitz@fox.com。
WATCH: Eye-popping illegal immigration stat prompts senator’s demand to ‘redouble’ deportations
May 18, 2026 4:03pm EDT / Fox News
Cato scholar David Bier told a House subcommittee that mass deportation would ‘destroy neighborhoods’ in the wealthy DC suburb
By Charles Creitz Fox News
Republicans pounced on a statistic from illegal immigration dove David Bier of the libertarian CATO Institute, as he testified that 1 in 5 Fairfax residents is either illegal or knows or lives with someone who is.
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Testimony from a policy analyst at a libertarian think tank was unexpectedly highlighted by immigration hawks after he delivered an opening statement at a House Judiciary Subcommittee hearing featuring controversial Fairfax County prosecutor Stephen Descano.
The hearing, chaired by Rep. Thomas McClintock, R-Calif., examined several examples of allegedly lax prosecutions by Descano involving illegal immigrants with prior rap sheets — including a Sierra Leone national accused of murdering a young woman at a bus stop on U.S. 1.
In his opening remarks, Cato Institute immigration expert David Bier testified that the “way to fix Fairfax” is not to continue the “mass deportation” agenda of President Donald Trump.
“The first step would be to give up on the mass deportation fantasy,” Bier said.
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Fairfax County Commonwealth’s Attorney Stephen Descano, center, listens to testimony during a hearing before a House Judiciary Subcommittee.(Tom Williams/CQ via Getty Images)
“About 1-in-5 Fairfax residents is someone who could be deported or who lives with them — It would destroy neighborhoods, rip Americans away from their spouses, parents, friends, families, customers, employees, employers, nurses, nannies, and teachers.”
While Bier later added that he believes noncitizens who harm Americans should be deported, his earlier statement drew the attention of several immigration hawks, including Sen. Mike Lee, R-Utah.
Lee borrowed Bier’s logic to prove immigration hardliners’ point that mass deportation is the right solution:
“On the contrary: 20% of a wealthy DC suburb being illegal immigrants means we should redouble our efforts to deport them all,” Lee said.
Bier responded to Lee’s comments in a lengthy statement to Fox News Digital, arguing the Utah Republican failed to explain why mass deportation would benefit Americans in Fairfax County.
“What was the senator’s explanation for his statement? The senator never says why it would benefit the country to harm Fairfax County and the Americans who live there, so there’s nothing to rebut,” Bier said.
Cato Institute analyst David Bier testifies before Congress.(Graeme Sloan/Getty Images)
“The senator is wrong to characterize the 20% as all illegal immigrants since half of them are just people who live with illegal immigrants, which is precisely my point.”
“Mass deportation would harm those Americans and many others by ripping them away from their spouses, parents, children, friends, family, employees, employers, customers, nurses, nannies, and teachers,” the immigration expert added.
Bier said mass deportation becomes more expensive and impractical as the population of illegal immigrants grows, meaning continuing on the current course will harm Americans.
“I would ask the senator: how many Americans would have to be hurt by mass deportation before he would reconsider his views?”
Reached for additional comment, Lee spokesman Billy Gribbin told Fox News Digital that the Utahn “believes in enforcing US law and deporting illegal immigrants — not making excuses for criminals who hurt Americans.”
Fox News Digital also asked DHS about the apparent statistical admission, and an agency spokesperson blamed Gov. Abigail Spanberger’s “reckless sanctuary policies” for making Fairfax and the rest of the Old Dominion a “hotbed for illegal alien criminals.”
“The stories of the victims and facts speak for themselves. The sanctuary politicians of Fairfax County have blood on their hands,” the spokesperson said.
DHS Secretary Markwayne Mullin added separately that half the murders recorded recently in Fairfax were allegedly perpetrated by “illegals who shouldn’t have been in our country to begin with.”
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“We have politicians who want to protect the criminals, President Trump is still protecting all of our neighborhoods,” Mullin said.
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Bier’s 1-in-5 statistic was also cited in a CATO document footnoted to the K Street firm Migration Policy Institute. MPI’s data showed an estimated 102,000-person “unauthorized” population in Fairfax — which has a census count of about 1.2 million as of 2020.
The top “countries-of-birth” on MPI’s list in that regard were El Salvador, Honduras, Guatemala, Bolivia and Peru, while only 4% combined was recorded from Canada, Europe and Oceania.
Charles Creitz is a reporter for Fox News Digital.
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Charles is a Pennsylvania native and graduated from Temple University with a B.A. in Broadcast Journalism. Story tips can be sent to charles.creitz@fox.com.
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