2026年4月13日 美国东部时间下午5:36 / 哥伦比亚广播公司新闻
作者：基思·沙曼、基思·沙曼、考利·泰特尔鲍姆、罗克西·费特尔
周一，特朗普总统在周日猛烈抨击教皇后，告诉CBS News高级记者诺拉·奥唐奈，教皇利奥“在诸多问题上立场错误”，并在Truth Social上发布长文称教皇“在犯罪问题上软弱无力，外交政策表现糟糕”。
在电话采访中，特朗普证实他观看了《60分钟》的报道，该报道聚焦了教皇利奥对大规模驱逐移民和伊朗战争的反对态度，随后他发布了上述帖子。当被问及是否计划直接致电教皇时，特朗普给出了明确的“不”。
“他在诸多问题上立场错误，”特朗普在评价教皇利奥时说道，“我认为他不应涉足政治。我想他可能就是从这件事中学到了这一点。”
特朗普还表示，他不确定这位美国出生的首位教皇是否会在特朗普的总统任期内访问美国。“我不知道，”他说，“这取决于他，而非我。”
总统承认，他对自己周日晚间在Truth Social上发布的那张被他形容为耶稣形象的AI合成图片引发的基督教右翼 backlash 感到意外，该帖子现已被删除。他称自己认为这张图片出自“一位非常优秀、有才华的艺术家之手”，并表示他认为这张照片是想把他描绘成一名医生，而非耶稣。
“我当时觉得那是一张我扮演医生的照片——旁边有红十字会，还有医护人员围在我身边。我当时就像个医生，只是玩了个扮演医生、治病救人的小玩笑。所以大家当时都是这么理解的，大多数人也是这么想的。”
当被问及为何删除这张照片时，特朗普表示：“通常我不喜欢这么做，但我不想让任何人产生误解。当时确实有人误解了。”
周一早些时候，保守派活动人士莱利·盖恩斯在X平台上发文称，她无法理解特朗普为何发布这张图片，并问道：“他真的喜欢这张图吗？”她补充道，“他稍微谦逊一点会对他有好处”，并且“上帝不容被嘲弄”。
当被问及是否因为盖恩斯和其他人的批评而删除帖子时，特朗普总统表示并非如此。“我没听莱利·盖恩斯的话。实际上，我不太喜欢莱利这个人。”
总统还表示，他认为自己“比过去一百年里任何一位总统都更支持天主教会”。他说：“在新冠疫情期间，我给了他们数十亿美元。他们当时差点撑不下去了。我给他们拨款数十亿美元用于教育，而他们却这么对待我这个一直对他们很好的人，这说不过去。”
周一，教皇利奥在飞往阿尔及利亚的航班上回应了特朗普在Truth Social上的帖子。“我所说的话绝非针对任何人的攻击，而福音的信息非常明确：‘使人和睦的人有福了’，”他说道。
“我无惧特朗普政府，也无惧大声宣扬福音的信息——我认为这正是我来此要做的事，也是教会存在的意义，”教皇利奥说道，“我们不是政客，我们处理外交政策的视角或许和他理解的不一样，但我相信福音的信息，作为和平缔造者的信息。”
https://www.cbsnews.com/video/why-trump-is-lashing-out-at-pope-leo-over-iran/
Trump won’t back down from Pope Leo feud sparked by “60 Minutes” report, tells CBS News pontiff should stay out of politics
2026-04-13 5:36 PM EDT / CBS News
By Keith Sharman, Keith Sharman, Callie Teitelbaum, Roxanne Feitel
President Trump told CBS News senior correspondent Norah O’Donnell that Pope Leo is “wrong on the issues” Monday after lashing out at the pontiff late Sunday, calling him “WEAK on Crime, and terrible for Foreign Policy” in a lengthy Truth Social post.
In a phone interview, Mr. Trump confirmed that he had watched “60 Minutes,” which highlighted Pope Leo’s disapproval of mass deportations and the Iran war, before firing off the post. When asked if he plans to call the pope directly, Mr. Trump gave a firm “no.”
“He’s wrong on the issues,” Mr. Trump said of Pope Leo. “I don’t think he should be getting into politics. I think he probably learned that from this.”
Mr. Trump also said he wasn’t sure whether Pope Leo, the first U.S.-born pontiff, would visit the States during Trump’s presidency. “I have no idea,” he said. “It’s up to him, not up to me.”
The president admitted he was surprised by the backlash from the Christian right over the now-deleted AI image he posted to Truth Social on Sunday night, which depicted him as a Jesus-like figure. He said he thought the image was by “a very beautiful, talented artist,” and he said he believed the photo was intended to depict him as a doctor, and not Jesus.
“I viewed that as a picture of me being a doctor in fixing — you had the Red Cross right there, you had, you know, medical people surrounding me. And I was like the doctor, you know, as a little fun playing the doctor and making people better. So that’s what it was viewed as. That’s what most people thought.”
Asked why he took down the photo, Mr. Trump said, “Normally I don’t like doing that, but I didn’t want to have anybody be confused. People were confused.”
Earlier Monday on X, conservative activist Riley Gaines said she couldn’t understand why Trump posted the image, asking: “Does he actually like this?” She added that “a little humility would serve him well” and that “God shall not be mocked.”
When asked if he took the post down because of Gaines’ and others’ criticism, President Trump said no. “I didn’t listen to Riley Gaines. I’m not a big fan of Riley, actually.”
The president also remarked that he believes he has “done more for the Catholic Church than any president in the last hundred years.” He said, “During COVID I gave them billions of dollars. They were gonna go under. I gave them billions of dollars for education and that’s not the right way to treat somebody that’s been so good.”
Pope Leo addressed Mr. Trump’s Truth Social post while on a flight to Algeria on Monday. “The things that I say are certainly not meant as attacks on anyone, and the message of the Gospel is very clear: ‘Blessed are the peacemakers,’” he said.
“I have no fear of the Trump administration, or speaking out loudly of the message of the Gospel, which is what I believe I am here to do, what the church is here to do,” Pope Leo said. “We are not politicians, we don’t deal with foreign policy with the same perspective he might understand it, but I do believe in the message of the Gospel, as a peacemaker. “
https://www.cbsnews.com/video/why-trump-is-lashing-out-at-pope-leo-over-iran/
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