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特朗普的巴基斯坦赌局:谈判能否促成和平?
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4月4日,一名女子走过伊朗德黑兰南部因美以空袭沦为废墟的建筑。
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布雷特·麦古克是CNN全球事务分析师,曾在乔治·W·布什、巴拉克·奥巴马、唐纳德·特朗普和乔·拜登任内担任高级国家安全职位。
开战六周后,美国与伊朗正计划举行自1979年伊朗伊斯兰共和国成立以来两国最高级别会晤。美方由副总统J·D·万斯带队,伊方由议长穆罕默德·加利巴夫带队。这场距离危机爆发仅两个月的会谈,标志着局势出现了令人难以置信的转折。
美伊两国内阁级接触的唯一先例是奥巴马总统第二任期内的谈判,当时国务卿约翰·克里定期与伊朗外交部长穆罕默德·贾瓦德·扎里夫会面。这些谈判持续了一年多。在每一轮会谈前后,双方专家团队都会在瑞士或维也纳花费数周乃至数月时间,敲定核协议的细节。
此次会谈的筹备过程却截然不同。似乎几乎没有开展任何外交铺垫工作,会谈议程也不完全明确。
唐纳德·特朗普总统宣布了为期两周的停火,为会谈定下框架,但自那以来,停火协议充其量只能说是脆弱不堪,特朗普提出的“全面、立即、安全”重新开放霍尔木兹海峡的先决条件也未得到满足。
伊朗方面称,停火协议必须涵盖黎巴嫩——伊朗在那里支持真主党。万斯则表示,这是一种误解。
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作为一名曾与伊朗谈判的前外交官——有时成功,有时失败——在没有迹象表明双方正在缩小分歧的情况下,我对如此高规格的会谈极度警惕。目前完全没有任何此类迹象。
伊朗将以强者姿态参与此次会谈。他们向来如此。但这种嚣张姿态掩盖了这样一个现实:这个国家刚刚遭受了军事重创,经济陷入混乱,国内也失去了民众支持。
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那么我们能期待什么?从成果来看,恐怕不会有太多收获。与伊朗谈判,即使在最理想的情况下,也耗时漫长且复杂重重。在伊斯兰堡不会有任何突破。但从象征意义和立场表态来看,赌注极高。这正是我关注的重点。
我们先来看看这些会谈可能存在的风险,再谈谈其潜在的积极意义。
风险:合法化有利于伊朗的新现状
从美国的角度来看,伊朗的军工基地已遭到严重破坏,其生产导弹和无人机的能力以及核计划都倒退了数年。伊朗领导层的损失可能会削弱其内部凝聚力,降低其在境外有效投射力量的能力——包括通过多年来一直在运作的代理人和恐怖组织。
阿曼穆桑达姆省海岸外的船只,远眺霍尔木兹海峡。2026年4月8日摄于阿曼穆桑达姆省。
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从伊朗的角度来看,其损失是可以承受的,而且它首次通过控制霍尔木兹海峡获得了战略优势。这一直是伊朗手中的一张王牌,而通过打出这张牌,他们证明了自己可以挟持全球经济。作为威慑手段,这甚至可能比伊朗过去追求的核武器更具威力。
副总统公开与伊朗新领导层会面,而此时伊朗正控制着霍尔木兹海峡,这存在巨大风险。对伊朗而言,这次会面本身就是目的——美国将因此合法化伊朗的新战略地位。
积极意义:打破伊朗与“大撒旦”的外交禁忌
之所以从未有过此类会晤,并非因为美国拒绝会面。奥巴马政府,甚至特朗普第一任期内,都准备与伊朗总统会面。但伊朗一直拒绝任何此类面对面接触。伊朗政权一直将自己描绘成与“大撒旦”划清界限、不屑与之打交道的形象,奉行通过暴力行动最终将美国赶出中东的议程。
在伊朗新领导层上台后不久就与万斯举行会晤,将打破伊朗自伊斯兰革命初期以来强加给自己的外交禁忌。如果美国在谈判立场上保持坚定,这种新态势下的优势可能会对伊朗不利。这方面的典范是罗纳德·里根与苏联领导人米哈伊尔·戈尔巴乔夫的会晤。里根坚持自己的要求,最终引发了连锁反应,导致苏联解体。
民众聚集在伊朗新最高领袖阿亚图拉·穆杰塔巴·哈梅内伊的大型肖像下。2026年4月10日,伊朗德黑兰举行纪念活动,悼念其父在美以空袭中遇难40天。
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今年早些时候,数千名伊朗民众因要求变革政府而遭屠杀。他们看到万斯与彻头彻尾的强硬派、前警察局长加利巴夫会面的场景,可能会感到沮丧。这可以理解,也让我感到不安。但通过打破伊朗的外交禁忌,美国有可能加剧新领导层内部的裂痕。
毕竟,特朗普今年打破了另一个长期定义美伊关系的禁忌:在伊朗本土境内使用军事力量。伊朗领导人长期以来认为美国不敢发动此类打击,部分原因是美国对霍尔木兹海峡的威胁有所忌惮。但现在他们明白了,特朗普并不忌惮。
放大积极场景
假设这些会谈将在未来几天举行,万斯的最佳策略就是效仿里根模式。这意味着伸出橄榄枝,但同时明确表示,除非满足美国的要求——特别是关于霍尔木兹海峡、核 enrichment 和核储备的要求——否则伊朗将继续面临通过制裁施加的极端经济压力,以及美国军事力量的威胁。
伊朗将试图动用它现在手中唯一的一张牌:霍尔木兹海峡。但如果外交失败,美国军事力量已在附近严阵以待,伊朗可能会过度行事。特朗普昨天刚表示,伊朗持续控制霍尔木兹海峡“不是我们达成的协议!”
在这场历史性会晤中,副总统手中握有更强的筹码——他应该善加利用。
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Brett McGurk is a CNN global affairs analyst who served in senior national security positions under Presidents George W. Bush, Barack Obama, Donald Trump and Joe Biden.
After six weeks of war, the United States and Iran are now planning the most senior meeting between the two countries since the Islamic Republic of Iran was founded in 1979. Led by Vice President JD Vance on the US side and Parliament Speaker Mohammed Ghalibaf on the Iranian side, the talks mark a mind-boggling turn of events now two months into this crisis.
The only precedent for cabinet-level engagement between Washington and Tehran was the negotiations in President Barack Obama’s second term, when Secretary of State John Kerry met regularly with Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif. Those talks lasted well over a year. Before and after each round at their level, teams of experts on both sides spent weeks and months in Switzerland or Vienna hammering out the details of a nuclear pact.
The lead up to these talks has been different. There appears to have been little diplomatic legwork in preparation. The agenda is not entirely clear.
President Donald Trump announced a two-week ceasefire to set the frame for the talks — but since then, the ceasefire has proven fragile at best and Trump’s precondition of a “complete, immediate, and safe” reopening of the Strait of Hormuz has not been met.
Iran claims the ceasefire must include Lebanon, where it supports Hezbollah. Vance has said that’s a misunderstanding.
Related article A deal or a mirage? Trump’s Iran ceasefire collides with chaos on the ground 13 min read
As a former diplomat who has negotiated with Iran — sometimes succeeding and other times failing — I am extremely wary of such a high-level meeting absent some sign that the two sides are narrowing differences. There is no sign of that at all.
Iran will approach these meetings pretending it’s the power at the table. That’s what they do. But the boastfulness conceals a country that has just been hammered militarily, is in shambles economically and that does not have the support of its own people.
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So what can we expect? In terms of outcomes, not much. Talks with Iran, in the best case scenario, are time consuming and complex. There will be no breakthroughs in Islamabad. In terms of symbolism and positioning however, the stakes are high. That’s where I’m focused.
Let’s consider the downside potential for these talks, followed by the upside potential.
Downside: Legitimizing a new status quo that favors Iran
From the US vantage point, Iran’s military industrial base has been massively degraded, with its ability to produce missiles and drones set back years together with its nuclear program. Iran’s leadership losses may degrade internal cohesion and reduce its ability to effectively project power outside its borders, including through proxies and terrorist groups — as it’s done for years.
Vessels and boats are off the coast of Musandam governorate, overlooking the strait of Hormuz, in Musandam governance, in Oman on Wednesday.
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From Iran’s vantage point, its losses are survivable, and it has retained strategic advantage in its favor through control — for the first time — of the Strait of Hormuz. This has always been a presumed card in Iran’s pocket, and in playing it, they have proven they can hold the global economy hostage. As a deterrent, that might be even greater than the nuclear weapon Iran has, in the past, pursued.
For the vice president to meet publicly with Iran’s new leadership as Iran is controlling the Strait of Hormuz carries significant risk. For Iran, the meeting itself is the goal — and the United States will have legitimized its new strategic position.
Upside: Breaking Iran’s diplomatic taboo with the Great Satan
The reason no meeting like this has ever happened is not because the US refused to meet. Obama and even Trump in his first term were prepared to meet with Iran’s president. But Iran has rejected any such face-to-face engagement. The Iranian system has portrayed itself as standing apart and above the “Great Satan” with no need for such direct diplomacy, as it has pursued an agenda with violence to ultimately eject the US from the Middle East altogether.
The meeting with Vance, so soon after new leaders came to power, would smash a precedent that Iran has imposed since the earliest days of its Islamic Revolution. The advantage in this new equation — if the US holds firm in its negotiating positions — may disfavor Iran. The model here would be Ronald Reagan meeting with the president of the Soviet Union, Mikhail Gorbachev. Reagan held firm in his demands and ultimately tipped dominos that led to the end of the USSR.
People gather under a large portrait of Iran’s new Supreme Leader, Ayatollah Mojtaba Khamenei, Thursday in Tehran, Iran, during a memorial to mark the 40th day since his father was killed in US-Israeli strikes.
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The Iranian people — thousands of whom were massacred earlier this year for demanding a change to Iran’s government — might be dismayed by the imagery of Vance meeting with Ghalibaf, a consummate hardliner and former police chief. That’s understandable. It makes me uneasy, as well. But there’s a chance that by breaking Iran’s taboo, the US increases internal fissures within the new leadership’s structure.
After all, Trump this year shattered a second taboo that has long defined US relations with Iran: Using military force inside the borders of Iran itself. Iran’s leaders had long thought the US was deterred from such strikes, due in part to its threats to Hormuz. They now know, Trump was not.
Increasing the upside scenario
Presuming these meetings take place over the coming days, the best approach for Vance is the Reagan model. That means extending an open hand but making clear that unless US demands are met — particularly on the Strait of Hormuz, nuclear enrichment and stockpiles — that Iran will continue to face extreme economic pressure through sanctions and a threat of US military force.
Iran will aim to use the one card it now has: the Strait of Hormuz. But it may overreach as US military forces remain positioned nearby and on the ready if diplomacy fails. Trump just yesterday said Iran’s ongoing control of the Strait “is not the agreement we have!”
In this historic meeting, the vice president will have a stronger hand — and he should use it.
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