2026-03-08T12:01:00-0400 / CBS新闻
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以下是2026年3月8日《面对国家》节目中对能源部长克里斯·赖特的访谈实录。
玛格丽特·布伦南:我们现在转向能源部长克里斯·赖特,他从丹佛加入我们的晨间节目。早上好。
能源部长克里斯·赖特:谢谢你邀请我,玛格丽特。
玛格丽特·布伦南:目前有5万名美军部署,已知已有6名美国人阵亡,平民被困。部长先生,根据我们的民调显示,这场战争在多数美国人中不受欢迎,超过半数(56%)的人表示反对。当你与能源企业高管讨论美国参与的规模和持续时间时,你会告诉他们什么?这种情况会持续多久?
赖特部长:我会告诉他们,伊朗已经对美国发动了47年的战争。在这47年中,他们一直试图破坏邻国的能源开发和能源基础设施,现在也在这么做。是时候结束这一切了。是的,我们会经历一段能源价格暂时高企的时期,但不会太久。最坏情况下,这也只是几周的事,而非数月。最终结果会更好:伊朗将被解除武装,无法威胁邻国,无法威胁美国士兵,也无法继续通过扰乱中东局势来推高能源价格。他们将转向商业而非冲突。
玛格丽特·布伦南:但就目前的局势而言,你知道过去一周汽油价格上涨了14%。美国汽车协会(AAA)报告称全国平均油价为每加仑3.45美元。我们看到油价飙升。你认为石油和天然气价格会涨到多高?
赖特部长:它们不应该涨得比现在高太多,因为全球石油供应充足。西半球根本不存在能源短缺。
玛格丽特·布伦南:是的。
赖特部长:美国是石油净出口国,也是天然气的大型净出口国。但亚洲和欧洲的炼油厂正面临正常原油供应中断的问题。不过全球有大量能源储备。你们看到的是对这场战争是否会长期化的情绪化反应和恐惧。这不是一场长期战争——
玛格丽特·布伦南:——但是——
赖特部长:——这只是暂时的动荡。
玛格丽特·布伦南:抱歉,你继续说,暂时动荡。
赖特部长:不,我的意思是,我们看到前几届政府已经尽力了:他们恳求、交易、贿赂伊朗政府,让其停止邪恶活动和屠杀行为,但根本没用。现在,伊朗正在扩大导弹和无人机项目,这些项目正迅速发展以实现其制造核武器的野心。我们即将越过无法再遏制其核野心的临界点。现在是结束其对美国和世界威胁的时候了。
玛格丽特·布伦南:但你知道,当我询问能源价格时,问题不在于供应。你说供应充足。国际能源署(IEA)负责人表示,石油供应充足,问题在于物流——是运输中断,这是个严重问题。他指的是实际运输能力。我知道你提到有一艘油轮通过了霍尔木兹海峡。通常每天有2000万桶原油通过这里。何时能恢复到正常水平?
赖特部长:哦,我认为很快。当然,我不确定具体时间。我们所有军事资产目前都集中在阻止伊朗杀害其邻国、威胁美国士兵以及霍尔木兹海峡的航运。但情况进展顺利。在相对短期内,导弹发射量下降了90%,无人机发射量下降了80%以上。我认为,你会看到伊朗的能力大幅下降,霍尔木兹海峡的航运将恢复正常。
玛格丽特·布伦南:所以你认为不需要海军护航油轮?
赖特部长:可能需要,可能需要。美国的职责是尽一切可能确保全球石油市场供应。是的,如果存在一些残留威胁——
玛格丽特·布伦南:——你们何时会做出决定?
赖特部长:我们目前正在与希望将油轮驶离海湾的各方协商。是的,初期的油轮可能需要美国军方的直接保护,但最重要的是解除伊朗威胁这些船只的能力。
玛格丽特·布伦南:总统曾表示他愿意动用美国战略石油储备(SPR),但我看到你今天早上在其他媒体上似乎对此泼冷水,称储备已“耗尽”。你的意思是美国没有足够的储备吗?
赖特部长:不。美国战略石油储备仍有超过4亿桶石油,而且产量强劲。如果有必要,我们很乐意动用这些储备。但正如你之前所说,这是物流问题:他们需要石油的地方是欧洲和亚洲的炼油厂。这就是我们采取务实措施的原因。有超过1亿桶俄罗斯浮式原油正排队等待交付给中国。这些原油将被出售、精炼,但可能需要一到两个月。因此,在不改变美国对俄政策的前提下,我们告诉印度人:把这些俄罗斯原油运到你们的炼油厂。如果你感觉原油短缺、价格上涨,就动用那些就在近海的俄罗斯原油储备。
玛格丽特·布伦南:是的。在这一点上,美国暂时暂停了部分制裁,使那些俄罗斯石油能够流通,你称这本来就会出售。但俄罗斯难道不会从中继续获利吗?如果俄罗斯是我们的对手,为什么不扣押这些俄罗斯油轮?
赖特部长:因为我们现在更担心伊朗和解决47年的问题,同时也担心美国消费者。我们想阻止——
玛格丽特·布伦南:——俄罗斯在帮助伊朗——
赖特部长:——汽油和柴油价格上涨。有谣言称他们在这么做,但我们不确定真假。当然,他们已经收到了我们的强烈警告。但这是海洋上的石油——
玛格丽特·布伦南:——这些伊朗无人机含有俄罗斯部件,俄罗斯一直在购买伊朗无人机。这一点有充分证据,哥伦比亚广播公司(CBS)已证实并报道过,美俄之间有情报共享。俄罗斯正在向伊朗提供情报以针对美国目标。俄罗斯怎么会与此无关?
赖特部长:你看,俄罗斯很擅长在全球制造麻烦,我不否认他们可能在帮忙。但我们通过加速出售俄罗斯石油来阻止能源价格上涨、维持欧亚炼油厂供油,这是务实之举,这不会改变美国对俄政策。我们只是在采取必要措施度过这个短期动荡,以便迎来一个能源价格更低的时代——因为世界主要能源生产地区(中东)将不再有强大的伊朗威胁邻国、威胁美国,且不再离核武器一步之遥。这是不可接受的情况——如果我们无所作为,能源价格就会一直高企。
玛格丽特·布伦南:——油价能涨到多高——
赖特部长:——这是一个不可接受的场景。这就是不采取行动的能源价格风险。
玛格丽特·布伦南:当卡塔尔官员称油价可能达到每桶150美元时,美国能承受吗?特朗普总统会因为民众反对战争而结束这场战争吗?因为民众会说“我付不起油价了”?
赖特部长:不,总统将继续专注于结束47年的冲突,专注于增加全球能源供应。这实际上是这一努力的一部分。确实会有能源生产的暂时中断,但从长远看,将允许更多能源生产,从而降低能源价格。但这不是一场长期冲突。大多数总统都选择“踢皮球”,推迟问题解决。但现在推迟的风险太大,因为这个“球”正变得越来越危险。
玛格丽特·布伦南:是的。
赖特部长:特朗普总统的大胆领导告诉我们:够了。我们要结束这一切。
玛格丽特·布伦南:我想问问委内瑞拉的情况。美国推翻了马杜罗,他现在在监狱里。但就在上周,内政部长访问了委内瑞拉,并与马杜罗的头号打手迪奥斯达多·卡贝洛会面。此人悬赏2500万美元。他掌管监狱和民兵组织,却被当作与美国官员平等的对手。这是否是特朗普政府在伊朗将采用的相同策略?你一直说伊朗政权糟糕透顶,现在却要与这个“糟糕政权”打交道?
赖特部长:我们不知道冲突结束后会是什么政权,但我们知道新政权不会拥有大规模武器库,不会再对美国、中东和全球石油供应构成巨大威胁。特朗普总统正在采取大胆领导。我们无法瞬间改变世界,但可以将其引向积极方向。委内瑞拉就是很好的例子。由于我们在委内瑞拉的行动,特立尼达和多巴哥附近的犯罪率已经大幅下降,而特朗普总统坚持与西半球邻国合作减少毒品走私。领导力需要冒险,但如果你想推动改善,就必须有信心、正确的议程和勇气,而总统具备这些。
玛格丽特·布伦南:能源部长赖特,感谢你今天早上的时间。《面对国家》节目稍后继续,我们马上回来。
Transcript: Energy Secretary Chris Wright on “Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan,” March 8, 2026
2026-03-08T12:01:00-0400 / CBS News
Updated on: March 8, 2026 / 2:04 PM EDT / CBS News
The following is the transcript of the interview with Energy Secretary Chris Wright that aired on “Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan” on March 8, 2026.
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MARGARET BRENNAN: We turn now to Energy Secretary Chris Wright, who joins us this morning from Denver. Good morning to you.
SECRETARY OF ENERGY CHRIS WRIGHT: Thanks for having me Margaret.
MARGARET BRENNAN: So 50,000 U.S. troops deployed, six Americans that we know of so far killed in action, civilians stranded. We look at our polling, Mr. Secretary, and we see that this is an unpopular war among the majority of Americans. More than half of them, 56% disapprove. When you speak to energy executives about the scope and duration of American involvement, what do you tell them? How long?
SEC. WRIGHT: I tell them that for 47 years, Iran is warg- waged war against the United States, and they’ve- throughout that 47 years, they’ve tried to undermine the energy development and energy infrastructure of all their neighbors, as they’re doing right now, and it’s time to put it to an end. So yes, we have a, we have a temporary period of elevated energy prices, but it will not be long. In the worst case, this is weeks, this is not months, and it leads to a much better place. It leads to an Iran that’s defanged, that can’t threaten its neighbors, can’t threaten American soldiers and can’t continue to drive up energy prices by making a mess of the Middle East. They can move to commerce, not conflict.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Well, but you have the moment we are in right now, and as you know, gasoline prices up 14% in the past week. According to AAA, reports the national average is $3.45. We’ve seen oil prices spike. How high do you think oil and gas are going to go?
SEC. WRIGHT: They shouldn’t go much higher than they are here because the world is very well supplied with oil. There’s no energy shortage at all in the Western Hemisphere.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Right.
SEC. WRIGHT: The United States is a net exporter of oil, a large net exporter of natural gas. But refineries in Asia and Europe are seeing an interruption from the normal crude flows. But there is massive energy stores around the world. What you’re seeing is emotional reactions and fear that this is a long term war. This is not a long term war–
MARGARET BRENNAN: –But–
SEC. WRIGHT: –It’s a temporary movement.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Sorry, go ahead, temporary movement.
SEC. WRIGHT: No, I’m saying look, we’ve seen previous administration have done everything they could. They begged, bartered and bribed the Iranian government to stop its nefarious activity, stop its murderous behavior, and it simply hasn’t worked, and now, they’re, they’re expanding missile and drone program that are rapidly growing to protect their desire to build a nuclear weapon. We’re going to cross the threshold where we can’t put them back in the box. Now is the time to end their risk to America and the world.
MARGARET BRENNAN: But as you know, when I ask you about energy prices, this is not a supply problem. You said there’s plenty of supply. The head of the International Energy Agency said, lot of oil, logistics are the problem. It’s dislocation. It’s a serious problem. So what he’s referring to there is being able to actually move it around. I know you said there’s, there’s one vessel that’s gone through the Strait of Hormuz. 20 million barrels per day typically go through it. When do you get back to that level?
SEC. WRIGHT: Oh, I think it will be relatively soon. Of course, I don’t know exactly. All of our military assets right now are focused on ending Iran’s ability to kill their neighbors, threaten American soldiers and threaten ship traffic in the Strait of Hormuz, but that’s going swimmingly well. Their missile launches are down 90%, the drone launches are down over 80% I think in the relatively near term, you’re going to see their capacity so low that we’ll see more normal ship traffic return to the Strait of Hormuz.
MARGARET BRENNAN: So you don’t think Navy escorts of vessels are necessary?
SEC WRIGHT: They might be. They might be. The U.S. is here to do everything we can to keep world oil markets supplied. Yes, if they have some residual–
MARGARET BRENNAN: –When will you make that decision?
SEC. WRIGHT: We’re, we’re in engagement right now with people that want to get tankers moving out of the Gulf. And so, yes, there could be there- early tankers probably will involve some direct protection by the U.S. military, but most important is to defang their ability to threaten these ships.
MARGARET BRENNAN: So the president had said he was open to tapping the American stockpile of oil, the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, but I saw you on other networks this morning, kind of throwing cold water on the idea. You referred to it as depleted. Are you saying America doesn’t have adequate stockpiles?
SEC. WRIGHT: No. America still has over 400 million barrels of oil in our strategic petroleum reserve, and, of course, robust production. We’re, we’re, more than happy to use that if it’s needed. But as you said earlier, it’s a logistics issue. Where do they need oil? They need oil at refineries in Europe and in Asia. And that’s why we took a very pragmatic step. There’s over 100 million barrels of floating Russian crude waiting in line to deliver to China. That’s going to be sold, it’s going to be refined, but that could be one or two months from now. So in a pragmatic way, with no change in U.S. policy towards Russia, we told the Indians, bring that into your refineries. You know, if you, if you’re feeling a shortage of crude, prices are being bid up, draw down that Russian crude stocks that are sitting right offshore.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yeah. So on that point, the U.S. has temporarily suspended some sanctions to make that Russian oil, you say was already going to be sold anyway, make it available. But doesn’t Russia still financially benefit from that? Why isn’t the U.S. seizing those Russian tankers if they are our adversary?
SEC. WRIGHT: Because right now, because right now, we’re worried about Iran and fixing a 47-year problem there, and we’re worried about American consumers. We want to stop the rise in–
MARGARET BRENNAN: –Russia was helping Iran–
SEC. WRIGHT: –gasoline and diesel prices. Well, there’s been rumors of that. We don’t know if that’s true or not. Certainly, they’ve gotten a strong message from us. But this is oil already on the ocean–
MARGARET BRENNAN: –These Iranian drones have Russian parts in them. The Russians have been buying Iranian drones. That is very well documented, and CBS has confirmed and reported that there was sharing of intelligence. Russia providing intel to target Americans. So how is Russia not part of this?
SEC. WRIGHT: Look, Russia, Russia is expert at causing trouble around the world, so I’m not saying they’re not. I’m saying I don’t- if they’re helping Iran, it’s not working very well, but we’re not helping Russia by just accelerating the sale of their oil to stop the rise of energy prices and keep European and Asian refineries in oil. We’re just doing pragmatic things to get through a short period that will bring in an era of even lower energy prices because a major energy producing region of the world, the Middle East, will no longer have a strong, powerful Iran that can threaten their neighbors, that can threaten the United States of America and was not far away from a nuclear bomb. That’s an–
MARGARET BRENNAN: –How much–
SEC. WRIGHT: –unacceptable scenario. That’s the risk to energy prices was not doing anything.
MARGARET BRENNAN: So when the Qataris say you could see $150 barrel in oil, that’s something America could stomach? President Trump wouldn’t say, I’m done with this war because I can’t stand the political pressure and the American people saying I don’t like what I’m paying at the pump?
SEC. WRIGHT: No, the president’s going to continue to stay focused on ending a 47-year conflict, stay focused on growing the global energy supply. This is actually part of that effort. It does involve a temporary impediment to energy production, but on the other side, it will allow much more energy production and much lower energy prices. But this is not a long term conflict. Most presidents have just thought, they’ll kick the can down the road. The risk is simply too great to kick that increasingly dangerous can down the road.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yeah.
SEC. WRIGHT: President Trump’s bold leadership is enough’s enough. We’re going to put it to an end.
MARGARET BRENNAN: I want to ask you about Venezuela. The U.S. deposed Maduro. He’s sitting in a prison. Just this past week, though, we had the interior secretary visiting Venezuela and sitting across from Maduro’s Chief thug, Diosdado Cabello. This is someone who has a $25 million bounty on his head. He ran the prisons, he ran the militias. He was treated as a counterpart to an American official. Is this the same playbook the Trump administration is going to run in Iran, that you will deal with the same regime you’ve been telling me is terrible to deal with for 47 years?
SEC. WRIGHT: We don’t know what the regime will be in place at the, at the end of this conflict, but we do know that regime will not have a massive weapons arsenal, that that regime will no longer be a massive threat to Americans and to the Middle East and to global oil supplies. President Trump is using bold leadership. We can’t change the world at a blink of an eye, but we can steer it in massively positive directions, and yes, Venezuela is a great example of that. Crime in the nearby Trinidad and Tobago has plummeted already from our actions in Venezuela, and President Trump’s insistence that he’s going to work with that our neighbors to reduce drug trafficking in the Western Hemisphere. Leadership takes- involves risks, but if you want to drive improvement, you’ve got to be confident, you’ve got to have the right agenda, and you’ve got to have the courage to do it. This president does.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Energy Secretary Wright, thank you for your time this morning. Face the Nation will be back in a minute. Stay with us.
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