2026-02-22T12:10:00-0500 / CBS新闻
以下是伊朗外交部长阿巴斯·阿拉格希于2026年2月22日在《面对国家》节目中接受采访的完整实录
玛格丽特·布伦南：我们现在关注美伊之间不断升级的紧张局势。据部分评估，美国已在该地区集结了自2003年伊拉克入侵以来规模最大的军事力量，同时世界最大军舰也正驶向该地区。但特朗普总统表示，他更倾向于通过外交途径与伊朗达成协议。现在我们连线德黑兰的伊朗外交部长阿巴斯·阿拉格希。欢迎来到《面对国家》。
伊朗外交部长阿巴斯·阿拉格希：谢谢你，玛格丽特。非常感谢你今晚邀请我。
玛格丽特·布伦南：那么你认为特朗普总统计划对伊朗发动袭击，还是只是将军事威胁作为谈判筹码？
阿拉格希部长：我无法评判。但有一个事实是，如果他们想解决伊朗和平核计划问题，唯一途径是外交谈判。我们过去已证明这一点，我相信现在仍有很大可能达成基于双赢的外交解决方案，且解决方案触手可及。因此，没有必要进行军事集结，军事施压也无法迫使我们让步。
玛格丽特·布伦南：你上周五称将在2-3天内提出草案，目前最高领袖是否已签署该提案？如果已签署，何时会交给特使史蒂夫·维特科夫？
阿拉格希部长：我们仍在完善提案，力求内容能兼顾双方关切与利益，目前正围绕这些要素进行工作。我相信本周四（2月26日）我们在日内瓦的会面中，能就这些要素达成共识，制定出一份高质量文本并快速达成协议。这是我的预期，我认为很有可能实现。
玛格丽特·布伦南：你确认周四将与史蒂夫·维特科夫在日内瓦会面，但伊朗领导层尚未签署该提案，对吗？
阿拉格希部长：这是两个不同的问题。我们当然会继续谈判，同时我们也在研究协议要素和文本草案。我希望届时能准备好就这些草案进行谈判。
玛格丽特·布伦南：你曾在奥巴马政府时期参与谈判2015年核协议，此次特朗普政府的谈判方案与该协议有何不同？
阿拉格希部长：十年过去了，局势已发生变化。我们的核计划技术水平在当时基础上有了更大提升，且现在面临更多制裁和压力。因此，我认为有可能达成比《联合全面行动计划》（JCPOA）更优的协议，新协议在内容上会比2015年协议更完善。
玛格丽特·布伦南：具体体现在哪些方面？
阿拉格希部长：正如你所说，我参与了那项协议的谈判，我们深入讨论了诸多细节。但现在，我们无需重复这些细节，只需在基本框架上达成共识，确保伊朗核计划永久和平，同时解除更多制裁。
玛格丽特·布伦南：你只谈核问题，是否意味着当前谈判仅限于核议题？因为 Rubio 秘书称任何有意义的协议必须涉及弹道导弹和地区代理问题。
阿拉格希部长：目前谈判仅聚焦核议题，不涉及其他内容。
玛格丽特·布伦南：你是否愿意允许武器核查人员无限制进入核设施，且包含美国核查人员？
阿拉格希部长：我们是《不扩散核武器条约》（NPT）的正式成员国，与国际原子能机构（IAEA）签订了保障监督协定，完全愿意根据保障监督机制全面合作，并可在特定条件下接受《附加议定书》。我认为建立全面核查机制是可行的。
玛格丽特·布伦南：你多次强调核计划的和平性质，但全球包括美国国会仍有诸多质疑。国内有压力要求特朗普总统采取强硬措施。52名共和党参议员和177名共和党众议员呼吁总统要求伊朗完全放弃核富集。为何坚持在伊朗领土上保留核富集权利值得冒险？当前局势下，这可能导致国家和政权的毁灭。
阿拉格希部长：作为主权国家，我们有权自主决定。核技术是伊朗科学家自主研发的，对我们至关重要，因为我们为此付出了巨大代价。过去20年，我们遭受制裁，失去科学家，甚至因制裁引发战争。核技术已成为伊朗的尊严和自豪，我们绝不会放弃。在国际原子能机构监督下，核计划完全透明，且伊朗在2015年已遵守协议，是美国无正当理由单方面退出。我们作为NPT成员国，有权和平利用核能，包括核富集。
玛格丽特·布伦南：但伊朗面临军事打击风险，且以色列已摧毁伊朗防空系统，美国曾空袭地下核设施，经济濒临崩溃。为何不妥协？
阿拉格希部长：关于防空系统，以色列去年夏季虽发动袭击，但我们的导弹精准命中以色列境内目标，迫使以方在12天后无条件停火。伊朗现在的导弹能力更强，足以捍卫国家。我们在12天的冲突中证明了实力，若局势需要，我们有信心再次捍卫国家。
玛格丽特·布伦南：以色列拥有地区制空权，但你方称导弹技术更优？
阿拉格希部长：我们的导弹确实能精准打击以色列目标，这是事实。
玛格丽特·布伦南：目前中东有4万美军部署。伊朗在致联合国安理会的信中威胁称”美国将承担全部责任”，称若发生战争，”敌对势力的所有基地、设施和资产都是合法目标”。伊朗会袭击波斯湾的美国基地，还是邻国？
阿拉格希部长：我不便透露具体军事计划，但可以明确：若美国发动攻击，伊朗将行使自卫权，这是国际法赋予的权利。伊朗导弹虽不直接打击美国本土，但会打击美军在波斯湾的基地。我们始终寻求和平解决，为何要主动挑起战争？
玛格丽特·布伦南：非常感谢您的回应。我们将持续关注后续外交进展，稍后继续《面对国家》的报道。
阿拉格希部长：谢谢，谢谢。
玛格丽特·布伦南：接下来是更多《面对国家》的报道，请继续收看。
Transcript: Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi on “Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan,” Feb. 22, 2026
2026-02-22T12:10:00-0500 / CBS News
The following is the transcript of the interview with Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchithat aired on “Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan” on Feb. 22, 2026.
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MARGARET BRENNAN: We turn now to the escalating tensions between the U.S. and Iran. The U.S. has assembled what is, by some measures, the biggest military buildup in the region since the 2003 invasion of Iraq, as the world’s largest warship also heads towards the region. But President Trump has said he’d prefer a diplomatic deal with Iran. For the latest, we go now to Tehran and the Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi. Welcome to ‘Face The Nation.’
FOREIGN MINISTER ABBAS ARAGHCHI: Well, thank you, Margaret. Thank you so much for having me this evening.
MARGARET BRENNAN: So do you believe President Trump plans to strike Iran, or is he using this threat as leverage?
MINISTER ARAGHCHI: Well, I’m not- I cannot judge. But one fact is there that if they want to find a resolution for Iran’s peaceful nuclear program, the only way is diplomacy. And we have proved this in the past, and I believe that still, there is a good chance to have a diplomatic solution which is based on a win-win game, and a solution is at our reach. So there is no need for any military buildup. And military buildup cannot help it, and cannot pressurize us.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Well, you said on Friday that you would have a draft proposal within two to three days. Have you gotten the supreme leader to sign off on that proposal yet? And if so, when will you give it to envoy Steve Witkoff?
MINISTER ARAGHCHI: Well, we are still working on that, and we are trying to make it something which consists of elements which can accommodate both sides’ concerns and interests, and we are working on those elements. And I believe that when we meet, probably this Thursday, in Geneva again, we can work on those elements and prepare a good text and come to a fast deal. This is my understanding. I see it quite possible.
MARGARET BRENNAN: So you have confirmed a meeting with Steve Witkoff Thursday in Geneva, but your leadership has still not signed off on the proposal. Is that right?
MINISTER ARAGHCHI: But these are two separate things. Of course, we continue our negotiation. At the same time we are working on it- on- on- on on the elements of a deal, and draft of the text. So I hope that when we get there, we are prepared to talk and negotiate on those drafts.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Well, let me ask you this. You helped negotiate that 2015 nuclear deal under the Obama administration. How would this deal with Trump be different than that one?
MINISTER ARAGHCHI: Well, 10 years have passed, and there is a new situation. Our nuclear program has advanced, technologically more advanced at that time, and there are, of course, more sanctions and more pressures. So I believe that a better deal than JCPOA or 2015 nuclear deal is possible. And there are elements that are- could be much better than the previous deal. So–
MARGARET BRENNAN: –Like what?
MINISTER ARACHI: I have the experience- I have the experience of that- that deal, as you said, I negotiated that deal. We went into so many details, but I think right now, there is no need for that much details. We can agree on basic things, and we can make sure that Iran’s program, nuclear program, is peaceful and will remain peaceful forever, and at the same- same time, more sanctions would be lifted.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Well, just very quickly you’re talking about nuclear, you are offering a nuclear only deal at this stage? Because Secretary Rubio said anything meaningful would also have to involve ballistic missiles and your support for proxies in the region.
MINISTER ARAGHCHI: Right now, we are negotiating only nuclear and there is no other subject.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Okay. Would you be willing to allow weapons inspectors unfettered access to your nuclear sites and for American inspectors to be among them?
MINISTER ARAGHCHI: Well, we are a committed member of NPT, Non-Proliferation Treaty, and we have a safeguard agreement with the agency, International Atomic Energy Agency, and we are ready to- to cooperate with the agency in full, according to the, you know, safeguard and we may accept, in certain conditions, the additional protocol to the safeguard, to the NPT. And I think a full verification mechanism, full monitoring mechanism, is acceptable and can be in place.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Okay, so you continue to say that your nuclear program is peaceful. And you know, there are a lot of skeptics around the world, including in the United States Congress. There is pressure on President Trump from within his own party. There were 52 Republican senators, 177 House Republicans who have called on President Trump to demand zero enrichment and full dismantlement of your nuclear program. Why should President Trump consider allowing Iran to have even the smallest bit of enrichment?
MINISTER ARAGHCHI: Well, first of all, enrichment is our right. We are a member of NPT, and we have every right to enjoy a peaceful nuclear energy, including enrichment. How we use this- this right is something you know related to us only. The enrichment is a sensitive part of our negotiation. The American team know about- they know our position, we know their position, and we have already exchanged our concerns, and I think a solution is achievable, but I’m not going to negotiate through media.
MARGARET BRENNAN: No, I understand, but we have seen very public statements from the president that he said no enrichment, and that’s a red line. But when you say it’s your right, okay, but you could get enriched uranium and buy it from someplace else. You know this. You’ve done this. Is demanding the right to enrich on Iranian soil really worth the risk right now? You’re facing a potential destruction of your country and the regime based on the kind of military buildup we’re looking at.
MINISTER ARAGHCHI: Well, I think, as a sovereign country, we have every right to decide for ourselves, by ourselves. We have developed this technology by ourselves, by our scientists, and it’s very dear to us, because we have paid a lot- we have paid a huge expense for that. We have been on the sanctions for- for at least 20 years and we have lost our scientists, and we have- we have had a war because of that. So that is now a matter of dignity and pride for Iranians, and we are not going to give it up. There is no legal reason to do that, while everything is peaceful, while everything is safeguarded by the agency, while we had an agreement in the past when we were- we remain fully committed to that, and you know, it was the U.S. who just withdrew with no justification. So we are a committed member of NPT. We want to use our right. We want to have our right and to exercise that.
MARGARET BRENNAN: But you understand this could be make it or break it for you here. I mean, look, your air defenses were largely demolished by Israel this past summer. They dominate your military. They killed the leader of your most powerful proxy in Hezbollah the United States bombed your underground nuclear facilities. Your economy is in shambles right now. So why do you think the regime could even survive unless you give this up?
MINISTER ARAGHCHI: Well, that is not the case when you talked about the air defense and the war we had with Israel. You know, yes, we had problem with our air defense, but Israelis had also problem with their air defense and our missile- missiles were able to hit targets inside Israel. So it’s- so you know, they started the war, but after 12 days, they asked for a cease fire, unconditional cease fire. Why? Because they couldn’t defend themselves against our missiles. So we have a very good capability of missiles, and now we are even in a better situation than previous war. So as a matter of fact, we are in a powerful position to defend ourselves. We know how to defend ourselves. We did it in the- in 12 day war, and we are fully prepared to repeat that, if necessary.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Respectfully, Israel has air superiority over Iran. But let’s talk about what you’re- you are saying in terms of your–
MINISTER ARAGHCHI: –no, our missiles- our missiles have also- our missiles have also superiority over the space of Israel. They can hit their targets. They hit their targets in a very exact way, and they can do it again.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Okay. Well, there are 40,000 American personnel in the Middle East right now, in Iran’s letter to the U.N. Security Council, you seem to threaten them, because you said America will bear full responsibility. You said you don’t want war. But if that’s what happens, all bases, facilities and assets of the hostile force in the region will be legitimate targets. Are you saying Iran will hit U.S. bases in the Gulf, or will you also bomb the Gulf countries that are your neighbors?
MINISTER ARAGHCHI: Well, I’m not going to say what we are going to do exactly. Obviously, we defend ourselves. If the U.S. attack- attacks us, then we have every right to defend ourselves. If the U.S. attacks us that is the act of aggression. What we do in response is the act of self defense. So- and it is justifiable and legitimate. So our missiles cannot hit the American soil. So obviously we have to do something else. We have to hit, you know, the Americans’ base in the region. That- that is- that is a fact. I am a diplomat. I’m not supposed to talk about, you know, our military plans, but what can I say is that why we should go for war when there is every possibility for a peaceful solution?
MARGARET BRENNAN: Mr. Foreign Minister, I have more questions for you, but I am out of time here. We are going to watch this diplomacy very carefully to see what happens in the coming days. Thank you for joining us. We’ll be right back–
MINISTER ARAGHCHI: Thank you, thank you–
MARGARET BRENNAN: –with a lot more ‘Face the Nation.’ Stay with us.
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