2026年1月21日 / 美国东部时间晚上9:49 / CBS新闻
明尼苏达州一名高级执法官员正在驳斥美国国土安全部（DHS）反复提出的指控，即该州当局一直将数百名危险罪犯释放到街头，而非移交给联邦移民局官员。
明尼苏达州惩教部专员保罗·施内尔（Paul Schnell）称这些说法”从根本上是错误的”，并警告称此类联邦宣传信息可能会损害公众对移民执法和公共安全的信任。
“我们与美国移民海关执法局（ICE）和ICE拘留请求（detainers）合作，”施内尔在周三接受CBS新闻采访时表示。”作为一项政策，我们长期以来一直这样做。他们怎么能说相反的情况是不可信的。”
此前，周二ICE负责执法和驱逐行动的代理执行副总监马科斯·查尔斯（Marcos Charles）指责明尼苏达州官员未能将人员移交给联邦拘留机构，并声称全州有超过1,360份待处理的ICE拘留请求。
这些是联邦当局要求当地执法部门在罪犯刑满释放后最多拘留48小时的请求——这给了ICE时间决定是否将其拘留以开始驱逐程序。
“最好的解决方案是将他们在像监狱或拘留所这样的安全可控环境中移交给我们，而不是将他们释放回街头，”查尔斯周二在圣保罗的新闻发布会上表示，并警告称此类释放使”孩子上学的社区”面临风险。
但惩教部专员表示，这些协调移交已经在发生——并且多年来一直按照政策和州法律执行。施内尔称，他的部门在囚犯获释前几周会与ICE定期沟通，如果有拘留请求的话安排交接。根据明尼苏达州惩教部的数据，2025年有84人直接从州监狱转移到ICE拘留所。
为了更好地了解问题范围，施内尔称他的部门进行了全州范围的调查。他们发现州监狱中有207人、县拘留所有94人受到ICE拘留请求——总计301人。这与联邦官员引用的1,360人相差甚远。
“我们无法解释这些数字如何吻合，”施内尔说。”而且没有人坐下来向我们解释。”
施内尔告诉CBS新闻，他的机构多次要求国土安全部解释这一差异，但没有收到任何关于移交失误或未遵守规定的文件证明。
“如果我们犯了错误，我们会承担责任，”他说。”但到目前为止，还没有人向我们展示我们哪里出了问题。”
当被问及对施内尔言论的评论时，国土安全部发言人重申了该机构的断言，即明尼苏达州有数百名罪犯被释放，全州有1,360名在押人员受到活跃的ICE拘留请求。
该发言人没有回应施内尔提出的差异问题，而是列举了国土安全部称在明尼苏达州获释的六名有刑事指控或定罪的人员，并呼吁州长蒂姆·瓦尔兹（Tim Walz）”承诺尊重所有ICE拘留请求”。
施内尔表示，在某些情况下，是ICE选择不再拘留个人，而是在联邦监督下或释放到社区。他强调这是联邦当局的决定，而非州政府的决定。
“我们没有将他们释放到社区，”他说。”我们将他们移交给了ICE。”
施内尔还反驳了国土安全部定期发布的所谓”最恶劣罪犯”名单，这些名单重点列出了ICE声称已逮捕的有严重刑事定罪的人员。但施内尔坚持明尼苏达州惩教部门已与ICE协调转移了许多此类人员的拘留权，并将这些名单描述为”在许多情况下是宣传材料”。他补充说，在多个案例中，联邦当局在拘留人员后选择将其释放。
“这些不是在明尼阿波利斯街头被抓捕的人，”他说。”他们是被移交给ICE的。之后发生的事情不是我们的决定。”
施内尔承认，在县级层面遵守ICE民事拘留请求的情况各不相同——尤其是在包括明尼阿波利斯在内的亨内平县等大型管辖区。但他也强调，惩教部的权限仅限于州监狱系统，而非地方拘留所。
尽管存在严重分歧，施内尔强调惩教部工作人员与ICE官员在基层的日常合作仍然密切。
“工作人员之间，在操作层面上，一切都按照应有的方式运作，”他说。”这就是为什么我认为他们的工作人员可能同样感到困惑。”
施内尔表示，他现在希望国土安全部高层能直接对话，以协调数据和信息——而非公开指责。
“这符合公共安全的最大利益，我们必须把事情做对，”他说。”言辞无法解决任何问题，事实才能。”
随着移民执法在全国和地方层面持续成为争议焦点，这场纠纷凸显了一个更深层次的挑战：一个分散的系统，联邦、州和地方实体在不同的权限下运作，使用不同的数据系统——在此过程中往往各说各话。
“我们非常关心公共安全，”施内尔说。”这就是我们遵循这项政策的原因。我们将继续协调拘留权的转移——这是必须的。”
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Top Minnesota corrections official denies DHS claim that the state is releasing dangerous criminals
January 21, 2026 / 9:49 PM EST / CBS News
A top Minnesota law enforcement official is rejecting repeated accusations by the Department of Homeland Security that state authorities have been releasing hundreds of dangerous criminals into the streets, rather than turning them over to federal immigration agents.
Paul Schnell, the commissioner of the Minnesota Department of Corrections, called the claims “fundamentally false” and warned that such federal messaging risks undermining public trust in both immigration enforcement and public safety.
“We cooperate with ICE and ICE detainers,” Schnell told CBS News in an interview on Wednesday. “We have, as a matter of policy, done that for a long, long time. How they can say otherwise is unbelievable.”
It came after Marcos Charles, ICE’s acting executive associate director for Enforcement and Removal Operations on Tuesday accused Minnesota officials of failing to turn people over to federal custody — and claimed there were more than 1,360 pending ICE detainers statewide.
Those are federal requests to local law enforcement to detain individuals for up to 48 hours after they’re set to be released from criminal confinement — which gives ICE time to decide whether to take them into custody to begin deportation proceedings.
“The best solution is to turn them over to us in a safe, controlled setting like a jail or prison instead of releasing them back onto the streets,” Charles said at a news conference in St. Paul, Tuesday, warning that releases put communities “where your children go to school” at risk.
But the Department of Corrections commissioner said those coordinated turnovers are already happening — and have been for years, as a matter of policy and state law. Schnell said his department routinely communicates with ICE in the weeks before an incarcerated person’s release to arrange handoffs if a detainer is in place. And according to Minnesota corrections data, 84 people were transferred directly from state prisons to ICE custody in 2025.
To better understand the scope of the issue, Schnell said his department conducted a statewide survey. They found 207 individuals in state prisons and 94 in county jails are subject to ICE detainers — 301 total. This is far short of the 1,360 cited by federal officials.
“We cannot explain how those numbers square,” Schnell said. “And nobody is sitting down with us to explain it.”
Schnell told CBS News his agency has repeatedly asked DHS to reconcile the discrepancy but has received no documentation showing missed transfers or failures to comply.
“If we made a mistake, we would own it,” he said. “But to date, no one has shown us where we failed.”
Asked for comment on Schnell’s remarks, a DHS spokesperson reiterated the agency’s assertions that hundreds of criminals have been released across Minnesota and that 1,360 people in custody statewide are subject to active ICE detainers.
The spokesperson did not address the discrepancies raised by Schnell, but pointed to a list of six people with criminal charges or convictions that DHS says were released in Minnesota, and called on Gov. Tim Walz to “commit to honoring all ICE detainers.”
In some cases, Schnell said, it is ICE that chooses not to detain individuals any longer, releasing them under federal supervision or into the community. He emphasized that this is a decision made by federal authorities, not the state.
“We didn’t release them into the community,” he said. “We released them to ICE.”
Schnell also pushed back against the Department of Homeland Security’s regular publication of so-called “worst of the worst” lists, which highlight individuals with serious criminal convictions ICE claims to have arrested. But Schnell insisted Minnesota corrections had coordinated with ICE to transfer custody of many of those people and called the lists “propaganda, in many instances.” He added that in multiple cases, federal authorities opt to release detainees after they’re in ICE custody.
“These weren’t people swept up on Minneapolis streets,” he said. “They were released to ICE. What happened after that was not our decision.”
Schnell acknowledged that compliance with civil ICE detainers varies at the county level — particularly in large jurisdictions like Hennepin County, which includes Minneapolis. But he also stressed that the Department of Corrections’ authority is limited to the state prison system, not local jails.
Despite the sharp disagreements, Schnell emphasized that day-to-day cooperation between Corrections Department staff and ICE officers on the ground remains strong.
“Staff to staff, operationally, this is working exactly the way it should,” he said. “Which is why I think their staff are probably equally confused.”
What he wants now, Schnell said, is a direct conversation at senior levels of DHS to reconcile data and messaging — not public accusations.
“It’s in the best interest of public safety to get this right,” he said. “Rhetoric doesn’t solve anything. Facts do.”
As immigration enforcement continues to be a flashpoint nationally and locally, the dispute underscores a deeper challenge: a fragmented system in which federal, state, and local entities operate under different authorities, with access to varying data systems — often speaking past one another in the process.
“We care deeply about public safety,” Schnell said. “That’s why we follow this policy. And we will continue to coordinate the transfer of custody — period.”
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